Notices
924/931/944/951/968 Forum Porsche 924, 924S, 931, 944, 944S, 944S2, 951, and 968 discussion, how-to guides, and technical help. (1976-1995)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Just got my 951 back from the mechanic

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-02-2007 | 01:07 PM
  #16  
reno808's Avatar
reno808
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,809
Likes: 0
From: In the garage trying to keep boost down
Default

Originally Posted by Dan87951
Im in the wrong field of work. Anyone want to start a Porsche repair shop with me?
Yeah wanna start. I'll drop out skool.

WOW this thread is making me feel so much better about my self I am doing the same job and upgrading pretty much every bolt on you can possibly imagine besides the intake manifold I will be adding a maf, a piggy back, wasted spark, and a wideband amoung other things that are not considered bolt ons.
Old 11-02-2007 | 03:43 PM
  #17  
ChrisJ951's Avatar
ChrisJ951
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,012
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
Default

So the labor was $4300 to install a new clutch and flywheel, all rollers, WP, and all drive belts, rebuild the front ball joints and a 4 wheel alignment, replace hood shocks, replace blinker stalk, replace hatch pins, change all fluids, Oil, coolant, tranny and steering, replace differential seals and replace all half shaft bolts with Loctite blue. He also replaced the windshield washer pump, all the lines and all 3 wiper blades. He adjusted the emergency brake cable and shoes and fixed the odometer gear.

The labor alone on the clutch and WP was $2600 of that. Personally I don't think it was all that high. I don't have access to a lift to do the work myself.
Old 11-02-2007 | 03:47 PM
  #18  
Fishey's Avatar
Fishey
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,801
Likes: 3
From: Lebanon, OH
Default

Originally Posted by M758
I have seen complete engine rebuilds to a very high level going for $3-4k complete with parts done by well respected shops. 5000 is crazy money for that stuff.
To do that amount of work on a 951 takes time and you would lose money if you didn't charge that much.

Clutch, and belts and seals on a turbo take time bolts are always rusty etc.. etc.. I don't give a damn what the book says the time is because that time just isn't realistic if you want to do that job right.
Old 11-02-2007 | 03:57 PM
  #19  
peterjcb's Avatar
peterjcb
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
From: Weddington, NC
Default

Originally Posted by cjacob813
Peter- I bought the clutch and WP kit myself. The $600 was additional parts.
Ouchhh! That's puts the total cost of your repairs almost pushing 6K.
That was indeed a lot of labor, but that's why I always say that if you are going to own own one of these cars, you'd better learn to work on it yourself.

In any case, you can enjoy your car now.
Old 11-02-2007 | 04:01 PM
  #20  
M758's Avatar
M758
Race Director
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 17,643
Likes: 8
From: Phoenix, Az
Default

Originally Posted by cjacob813
I had the belts, WP, rollers, clutch, odometer gear, hatch pins, rear diff seals, blinker stalk and a few other things fixed. The bill was almost $5k in labor, including $600 in parts. They shimmed the wastegate, it runs great.
This post says 5k in labor and 7 items.


Originally Posted by cjacob813
So the labor was $4300 to install a new clutch and flywheel, all rollers, WP, and all drive belts, rebuild the front ball joints and a 4 wheel alignment, replace hood shocks, replace blinker stalk, replace hatch pins, change all fluids, Oil, coolant, tranny and steering, replace differential seals and replace all half shaft bolts with Loctite blue. He also replaced the windshield washer pump, all the lines and all 3 wiper blades. He adjusted the emergency brake cable and shoes and fixed the odometer gear.
Now the labor is $4300 instead of $5000 and the list of stuff got alot longer. (19 items)

Moral of the story. All those "little things" add up and take time.

Doing a clutch and waterpump should not be 5k. Add in 10 other things and it could be $4300 in labor.
Old 11-02-2007 | 04:29 PM
  #21  
FRporscheman's Avatar
FRporscheman
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,014
Likes: 20
From: San Francisco Area
Default

Wow, $5k. Congrats on having a sound machine. I hope it gives you many years of joy and service.

I'm glad I can do my own wrenching, because there is no way I could afford a repair bill like that.
Old 11-02-2007 | 04:31 PM
  #22  
ChrisJ951's Avatar
ChrisJ951
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,012
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
Default

Joe- When I originally posted, I didn't list everything done cause I had just picked up the car and didn't have time to study the invoice, but there were a lot of little things done to the car to make it near perfect. Needless to say, the only thing I need to fix is the A/C, which I'll do in the spring.
Old 11-02-2007 | 04:47 PM
  #23  
reno808's Avatar
reno808
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,809
Likes: 0
From: In the garage trying to keep boost down
Default

Originally Posted by cjacob813
Joe- When I originally posted, I didn't list everything done cause I had just picked up the car and didn't have time to study the invoice, but there were a lot of little things done to the car to make it near perfect. Needless to say, the only thing I need to fix is the A/C, which I'll do in the spring.
How much did you pay for the car if you dont mind me asking?
Old 11-02-2007 | 05:31 PM
  #24  
ChrisJ951's Avatar
ChrisJ951
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,012
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
Default

$5800.00
Old 11-02-2007 | 06:46 PM
  #25  
Mike C.'s Avatar
Mike C.
Drifting
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,224
Likes: 1
From: Eastern CT
Default

This thread should be retitled "Why learn to work on your own car?"
Old 11-02-2007 | 06:54 PM
  #26  
ChrisJ951's Avatar
ChrisJ951
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,012
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
Default

Mike- It's not the learning part, it's the space necessary part. Living in a condo doesn't give me the space to operate. I could have driven the car the way it was and eventually ruined the engine and there would have been another 951 down the drain, but I decided to spend a little bit of money and make the car the best it can be. I'm not here to comment about the people who work on their own cars, so please don't make comments like yours about the guys who support independant mechanics but having work done by them.
Old 11-02-2007 | 07:05 PM
  #27  
robert944h's Avatar
robert944h
Racer
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 429
Likes: 0
From: Orlando
Default

You paid what you should have paid. Clutchs on 951s are a royal PITA! Add on waterpump, belts, front end reseal and a bunch of other stuff I'd say that was a fair price. Of coarse it's nice to diy, but some people don't have the space, time, knowledge, etc... Hell, for under 15,000 you have a great performing car and peace of mind. If you are at or over 100k on the odometer the only other thing I would worry about is changing the rod bearings. Have fun driving!
Old 11-02-2007 | 07:27 PM
  #28  
ChrisJ951's Avatar
ChrisJ951
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,012
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
Default

Hi Robert- I'm at 97k and have heard different things on when/if to change the rod bearings. The general consensus is that if the car isn't a track car, which it isn't then it's not manditory unless there is knocking. When I add the Vitesse stage 3, I'll have the rod and mains done, but that won't be for a while.
Old 11-02-2007 | 08:39 PM
  #29  
MM951's Avatar
MM951
Race Director
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,607
Likes: 49
From: Hudson Valley
Default

The car sounds like its very nice, how about pics of both of your cars ? How do you like the 335i compared to the 951?
Old 11-02-2007 | 09:01 PM
  #30  
robert944h's Avatar
robert944h
Racer
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 429
Likes: 0
From: Orlando
Default

I've seen two cars with bad rod bearings with little to no knock. One was bad enough that it took out the crank.


Quick Reply: Just got my 951 back from the mechanic



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:14 AM.