Best Tool Ever: Motive Power Bleeder
#17
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yeah the 1100 is used for the pcars, its a 43mm thread I think. the 1101 is the universal that is supposed to fit my two honda cars, but I'm doing that later today so i'll let you know if you works/doesnt. time for some hungover wrenching. I live in union county.
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
Cool! Where did you get the cap?
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The caps have to be pretty common- I bought a pressure bleeder for my Focus SVT (don't laugh, it was cheap and fun) but it fit my A4 and the 944... and a pal's Boxster.
Dan- where are you? I'm about in town- I see a few 944s but never any turbos.
Dan- where are you? I'm about in town- I see a few 944s but never any turbos.
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JayP--I've got a Focus SVT as well, really fun car. How much pressure do you use to power bleed the svt brakes?
How much pressure is a good amount to power bleed the 944 brakes without doing any damage?
How much pressure is a good amount to power bleed the 944 brakes without doing any damage?
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I like to see the innovations and I've made my own in the past. But I broke down and bought a new one from Bavarian - really needed it for the wife's beemer - it fits Porsche too. A couple of things about it that I didn't expect. First, it has a quick disconnect right at the adapter. That is cool because, getting everything disconnected when your done -without making a big spill can be a challenge.
Also, like someone mentioned, I switched to a blue fluid this time - that so I could see when the fluid coming out changed over to blue and would know when the old stuff was all out. That worked but, I'm suspicious that I actually got all of the old stuff out because it seemed like very little of the old gold came out before I started "seeing blue"; maybe I'm missing a step somewhere.
And the mighty-vac was handy as a sort of turkey-baster, to get the old stuff our of the reservoir but I've never used it for any other part of brake bleeding. An actual turkey baster would probably work as well but I catch hell anytime anything kitchen-related is found in the garage ;] ...Bruce
PS ... since we're talking turkeys, here a few of my wild neighbors...
That there's what ya call a segway...
Also, like someone mentioned, I switched to a blue fluid this time - that so I could see when the fluid coming out changed over to blue and would know when the old stuff was all out. That worked but, I'm suspicious that I actually got all of the old stuff out because it seemed like very little of the old gold came out before I started "seeing blue"; maybe I'm missing a step somewhere.
And the mighty-vac was handy as a sort of turkey-baster, to get the old stuff our of the reservoir but I've never used it for any other part of brake bleeding. An actual turkey baster would probably work as well but I catch hell anytime anything kitchen-related is found in the garage ;] ...Bruce
PS ... since we're talking turkeys, here a few of my wild neighbors...
That there's what ya call a segway...
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I have used the Motive for years and been very happy. I made a couple of enhancements that are worth mentioning.
-I added a long hose so that you can leave the bleeder on the ground instead of inside your engine compartment. Simple to do and safer, in my opinion.
-I added a male quick connect fitting to the reservoir cap and a female connect on the end of the hose. This seals the unit when it is disconnected so you don't have the leaking with storage issues. It really makes everything more convenient and clean.
If you are buying a new one, get the more expensive one. It comes with an aluminum cap and the hose is on a swivel so it makes the job that much easier. Or but the one on sale at $40.00 and make the changes I did and you can't go wrong.
-I added a long hose so that you can leave the bleeder on the ground instead of inside your engine compartment. Simple to do and safer, in my opinion.
-I added a male quick connect fitting to the reservoir cap and a female connect on the end of the hose. This seals the unit when it is disconnected so you don't have the leaking with storage issues. It really makes everything more convenient and clean.
If you are buying a new one, get the more expensive one. It comes with an aluminum cap and the hose is on a swivel so it makes the job that much easier. Or but the one on sale at $40.00 and make the changes I did and you can't go wrong.
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Porsche uses a positive pressure system in the dealership... around the tech training place they refer to it as R2D2... But i was told that in a dealership most people use the Motive, the same cap works for all Porsche's for almost the last 30 years (i believe). I am not sure about the older cars, but the Cayenne I just bled I was instructed to Pressurize to 2 Bar.
Mark
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Originally Posted by JayP
The caps have to be pretty common- I bought a pressure bleeder for my Focus SVT (don't laugh, it was cheap and fun) but it fit my A4 and the 944... and a pal's Boxster.
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I have posted many times about how great the Motive is. Like someone above said, you almost go looking to change somebody's brake fluid. The only challenge it has ever presented is getting a good seal on the universal rectangular adapter (older Fords in my case). You really have to crank down on it. I do a leak check before putting the fluid in the container. On European cars that take the round threaded adapter it is purely too good to be true. When I replace the clutch master on my Ford truck I used the old cap and a hose barb to make an adapter similar to the one pictured, works great and no frustrated spouse.
The exact same reservoir and pump (except it is green) is also sold for spraying pesticides but I don't know if it is cheaper or not (garage sale?). There is no gauge either but there is a place to install one. I use it to pressurize the cooling system.
Lou
The exact same reservoir and pump (except it is green) is also sold for spraying pesticides but I don't know if it is cheaper or not (garage sale?). There is no gauge either but there is a place to install one. I use it to pressurize the cooling system.
Lou
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I also love the Motive Power Bleeder. Just make sure to check the rubber hoses for wear and if you really want to be proactive, you can repace them before you have an incident like I had one time. My bleeder was 2 or 3 years old with lots of use. I was bleeding one of the rear calipers and I hear this sound that made me think a swarm of mosquitos had flown into my garage. I got up to investigate and found atomized brake fulid shooting in every direction and covering everything in a 15 ft radius. The hose had broken near the clamp on the bottle side while the bottle was pressurized. Made a huge mess and I found remnants for 6 months afterward of places that I had missed in my cleanup efforts. I replaced the hose and everyone lived happily ever after....yada yada yada.
Mike
'95 968 M030 Coupe
'91 944 S2 Coupe
Mike
'95 968 M030 Coupe
'91 944 S2 Coupe