944 v. 911 - a comparison after one week
03-25-2007 | 10:00 PM
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I've seen some 911 targas advertised around the price of a nice S2. It's a tempting goal, but the market for 911s makes me think that a $10k car is slightly better than a basketcase.
I would sacrifice the somewhat ugly targa roof to have an affordable, late 70s/early 80s 911. The 944 is a great car, but the 911 is just hardcore.
I would sacrifice the somewhat ugly targa roof to have an affordable, late 70s/early 80s 911. The 944 is a great car, but the 911 is just hardcore.
03-25-2007 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by VaSteve
No wonder you didn't like them. Neither of those cars exist!! 
The 911T was from 69-73. The SC was from 78-83.
The 911T was from 69-73. The SC was from 78-83.
My SC had (I think) a 3.0 or 3.2 and although far superior to the T, it was no rocket.
It's a bitch getting old.
03-25-2007 | 11:52 PM
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Sure it was a T? Pretty sure the T's were carb'ed and the E's were the MFI... then again maybe being it a late T it was MFI. I don't know my longhoods as well as a I should. Mine's an SC, no rocket, but compared my 944 it is. They are different, both fun, but different. As much as I hate on the 944 when wrenching, I love driving it.
03-26-2007 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by chris luckett
I don't know where you got your info, but it's not correct.
86-87 Turbo 217hp
88-89 Turbo(S) 247hp
84-86 911 3.2 207hp
87-89 911 3.2 217hp
That 89 C4 at 250hp was a 3.6L.
86-87 Turbo 217hp
88-89 Turbo(S) 247hp
84-86 911 3.2 207hp
87-89 911 3.2 217hp
That 89 C4 at 250hp was a 3.6L.
http://www.porsche.com/usa/accessori.../roadvehicles/
Technical Specifications
1985 911
Engine: Six-cylinder Boxer, air-cooled, one overhead camshaft per side
Power: 231 bhp (170 kW) at 5900 rpm
Displacement: 3164 ccm
Fuel system: Bosch DME, tank capacity 85 litres
Transmission: Five-speed gearbox
Chassis: Integral body frame with independent front wheel suspension with wishbones and damper struts, stabilisers and longitudinal torsion spring bars, and independent rear wheel suspension with diagonal control arms and transverse torsion spring bars, stabilisers
Dimensions and weight: Wheelbase: 2272 mm
Length: 4291 mm
Width: 1652 mm
Height: 1320 mm
Weight: 1210 kg
Performance: 245 km/h
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1986 951
Engine: Porsche 944:
Four-cylinder in-line engine, water-cooled, one overhead camshaft
Porsche 944 Turbo:
Four-cylinder in-line engine, water-cooled, one overhead camshaft, turbocharged
Power: Porsche 944: 163 bhp (120 kW) at 5800 rpm / with cat. 150 bhp (110 kW)
Porsche 944 Turbo: 220 bhp (162 kW) at 5800 rpm
Displacement: Porsche 944: 2479 ccm
Porsche 944 Turbo: 2479 ccm
03-26-2007 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by VaSteve
Sure it was a T? Pretty sure the T's were carb'ed and the E's were the MFI... then again maybe being it a late T it was MFI. I don't know my longhoods as well as a I should. Mine's an SC, no rocket, but compared my 944 it is. They are different, both fun, but different. As much as I hate on the 944 when wrenching, I love driving it.
Does this mean you're going to tell my wife... this " " isn't 9 inches?
03-26-2007 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Legoland951
I still think the 87-89 930 slantnose is one of the best looking cars ever designed. I will buy one one day along with a ferrari 328.
03-26-2007 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
I was talking about the current Carrera, my bad, bad comparison.
A "heavily" modded 951 is 350+hp at the wheels in my book. A Carrera S is only 300 at the wheels.
What Carrera are you talking about?
03-26-2007 | 02:47 AM
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A 512TR is a neat car though I never liked the door "fins". I was really bored last week, thought about bidding on some 328s, and ran across a 550 advertised 214 mph achieved top speed on a public highway for $129k buy it now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferra...QQcmdZViewItem. I called 2 of my friends and joked around about a 3 way time share ferrari.
This one looks nice but it went a bit higher than usual http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...7590&rd=1&rd=1.
A heavily modded 951 is 400+hp at the wheels to me. Lightly modded is 250-300 hp at the wheels and medium modded is 300-400 hp. Completely arbitrary and subjective rating system though anything over 400 hp at the wheel for a street legal car is a little ridiculous in my book because most people wouldn't know what to do with usable 400hp.
This one looks nice but it went a bit higher than usual http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...7590&rd=1&rd=1.
A heavily modded 951 is 400+hp at the wheels to me. Lightly modded is 250-300 hp at the wheels and medium modded is 300-400 hp. Completely arbitrary and subjective rating system though anything over 400 hp at the wheel for a street legal car is a little ridiculous in my book because most people wouldn't know what to do with usable 400hp.
03-26-2007 | 07:00 AM
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A heavily modified 944 turbo should put ~450hp to the wheels.
The newest Carrera falls short by maybe as much as 160hp.
Even a mildly modified 944 turbo (I would call my car mildly modified) would be quicker in many cases.
The newest Carrera falls short by maybe as much as 160hp.
Even a mildly modified 944 turbo (I would call my car mildly modified) would be quicker in many cases.
03-26-2007 | 08:14 AM
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From: limbo....
Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
I was talking about the current Carrera, my bad, bad comparison.
Dude - you should have seen what I did to a stock 997 Carrera S - it was ugly - on PUMP gas too.
We won't talk about the 997 GT3 over by Fahrenbacher/Lowles, either
- That guy just gave up.
