Sun visors.....Arrghh!
07-28-2006 | 11:30 AM
#16
Burning Brakes
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From: Orlando,FL (formerly UK)
Originally Posted by sm
Tighten the three screws that hold down the pivot point of the visors and that should resolve the floppy visor problem. It worked for me.
It doesn't work for the "pull-down" droop, nor can it work. The only things it can do are:
a) Stiffen up the 'swing' as it turns from shading the front to shading the side window, or:
b) Correct a left-right droop, where the visor sags down away from the rear-view mirror in the center of the car
...But it cannot do anything for the visor pull-down droop.
The visor pull-down is friction held by the horizontal leg of the L-shaped metal arm. The three screws are nowhere near the horizontal arm. and could only possibly affect the 'swing' of the visor, not the pull-down which is what droops.
-I'd say go ahead, try loosening the three screws again, I bet dollars to doughnuts there's no way that your visor could droop more as a result... -it might tilt down left-right, but it simply can't affect a pull-down droop.
The clips don't help the droop. The clips DO break from time to time however, and the VW clip used in the following cars (USA model years) is an improvement over the vulnerable plastic Porsche part.
Vw Golf 1999.5-2006
VW Jetta 1998-2005
New Beetle 1997-2006
VW Passat 1997-2005
...There may have been other European VW cars that used it such as the Lupo and the Polo, but here in the USA
VW Part numbers in black are:
3B0 857 561 BB41 (for the visor clip itself)
and
3B0 857 563 B41 (clip-on cap)
The VW part has a spring-metal insert which spares the plastic the strain of bending every time that the visor is inserted or pulled out. Use the same screws that held the Porsche clips in, but not the two little washers which slide sideways into the old Porsche part.
The only easy cure for pull-down droop that I've found is Velcro/Viagra... or velagra as I call it!
-that or replacing the visor.Keith
07-28-2006 | 02:07 PM
#18
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2001
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From: Northeast
Originally Posted by VWaddict
I didn't see how this could work, but I tried it last night on your advice.
It doesn't work for the "pull-down" droop, nor can it work. The only things it can do are:
a) Stiffen up the 'swing' as it turns from shading the front to shading the side window, or:
b) Correct a left-right droop, where the visor sags down away from the rear-view mirror in the center of the car
...But it cannot do anything for the visor pull-down droop.
The visor pull-down is friction held by the horizontal leg of the L-shaped metal arm. The three screws are nowhere near the horizontal arm. and could only possibly affect the 'swing' of the visor, not the pull-down which is what droops.
-I'd say go ahead, try loosening the three screws again, I bet dollars to doughnuts there's no way that your visor could droop more as a result... -it might tilt down left-right, but it simply can't affect a pull-down droop.
The clips don't help the droop. The clips DO break from time to time however, and the VW clip used in the following cars (USA model years) is an improvement over the vulnerable plastic Porsche part.
Vw Golf 1999.5-2006
VW Jetta 1998-2005
New Beetle 1997-2006
VW Passat 1997-2005
...There may have been other European VW cars that used it such as the Lupo and the Polo, but here in the USA
VW Part numbers in black are:
3B0 857 561 BB41 (for the visor clip itself)
and
3B0 857 563 B41 (clip-on cap)
The VW part has a spring-metal insert which spares the plastic the strain of bending every time that the visor is inserted or pulled out. Use the same screws that held the Porsche clips in, but not the two little washers which slide sideways into the old Porsche part.
The only easy cure for pull-down droop that I've found is Velcro/Viagra... or velagra as I call it! -that or replacing the visor.
Keith
It doesn't work for the "pull-down" droop, nor can it work. The only things it can do are:
a) Stiffen up the 'swing' as it turns from shading the front to shading the side window, or:
b) Correct a left-right droop, where the visor sags down away from the rear-view mirror in the center of the car
...But it cannot do anything for the visor pull-down droop.
The visor pull-down is friction held by the horizontal leg of the L-shaped metal arm. The three screws are nowhere near the horizontal arm. and could only possibly affect the 'swing' of the visor, not the pull-down which is what droops.
-I'd say go ahead, try loosening the three screws again, I bet dollars to doughnuts there's no way that your visor could droop more as a result... -it might tilt down left-right, but it simply can't affect a pull-down droop.
The clips don't help the droop. The clips DO break from time to time however, and the VW clip used in the following cars (USA model years) is an improvement over the vulnerable plastic Porsche part.
Vw Golf 1999.5-2006
VW Jetta 1998-2005
New Beetle 1997-2006
VW Passat 1997-2005
...There may have been other European VW cars that used it such as the Lupo and the Polo, but here in the USA
VW Part numbers in black are:
3B0 857 561 BB41 (for the visor clip itself)
and
3B0 857 563 B41 (clip-on cap)
The VW part has a spring-metal insert which spares the plastic the strain of bending every time that the visor is inserted or pulled out. Use the same screws that held the Porsche clips in, but not the two little washers which slide sideways into the old Porsche part.
The only easy cure for pull-down droop that I've found is Velcro/Viagra... or velagra as I call it!
-that or replacing the visor.Keith
07-28-2006 | 06:03 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Orlando,FL (formerly UK)
Okay, I think I see how it may have been so, for your visor perhaps...
If I loosen my three screws A LOT... the first thing that happens is that the whole thing starts to sag diagonally, down at the center of the car away from the dome light & mirror. -Basically it hangs low in the middle.
The side-effect of that, is that the ceiling trim over the top of the door (just behind the A-pillar) presses on -and forces downwards- the outermost part of the visor's 'pull-down' edge.
So yes, I suppose if that's what's happening, then the droop is indeed a secondary effect of the three screws being too loose. -However, if you really have the "worn-out-horizontal-bar-droop", then no amount of tightening of the three screws would help you.
I guess we were both right, -just describing different problems... -Does that sound like an accurate summary? -If I'm not describing the problem correctly, forgive me. -I started by tightening, and that produced no improvement. -If I'd have loosened them a lot, I possibly would have seen this "secondary effect" thing. -However, it would seem to be a slightly different problem to the "droop" which usually afflicts these visors.
Yoose guyz rock da most!
Keith
If I loosen my three screws A LOT... the first thing that happens is that the whole thing starts to sag diagonally, down at the center of the car away from the dome light & mirror. -Basically it hangs low in the middle.
The side-effect of that, is that the ceiling trim over the top of the door (just behind the A-pillar) presses on -and forces downwards- the outermost part of the visor's 'pull-down' edge.
So yes, I suppose if that's what's happening, then the droop is indeed a secondary effect of the three screws being too loose. -However, if you really have the "worn-out-horizontal-bar-droop", then no amount of tightening of the three screws would help you.
I guess we were both right, -just describing different problems... -Does that sound like an accurate summary? -If I'm not describing the problem correctly, forgive me. -I started by tightening, and that produced no improvement. -If I'd have loosened them a lot, I possibly would have seen this "secondary effect" thing. -However, it would seem to be a slightly different problem to the "droop" which usually afflicts these visors.
Yoose guyz rock da most!
Keith
07-28-2006 | 07:53 PM
#20
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Track Day
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Logansport, In USA
Yep, that's the problem I'm having too. The visor is loose on the shaft/bar, and I don't see any way to fix it short of replacing the visor. I'm still looking for one..................
John
87 944 NA auto
John
87 944 NA auto
