Downshift or brake?
#4
NEVER DOWNSHIFT IN ORDER TO SLOW THE CAR DOWN!
Brakes are for slowing the car down - the transmission is to connect the motor to the wheels.
Brake pads and rotors are cheap. Transmissions and clutches are expensive.
-Z-man.
Brakes are for slowing the car down - the transmission is to connect the motor to the wheels.
Brake pads and rotors are cheap. Transmissions and clutches are expensive.
-Z-man.
#5
When exiting the highway, AFTER you brake to slow the car down, you have to down-shift, unless you plan on coasting all the way home! So the answer to the question is yes, to keep going at a slower speed, and NO to slow down.
Right?
Right?
#6
Andy:
You first slow down using the brakes, and when the car has slowed down to the point that it warrants a lower gear, then you shift down to the next year.
BTW: NCPorsche - perhaps you've heard of "heel-toe-downshifting?" This is a technique used in racing that enables the driver to grab a lower gear while under braking. Selecting the lower gear should have no effect on the braking attitude of the car. If you're driving with a proficient heel-toe downshifter, you wouldn't even feel when the lower gear is selected.
-Z.
You first slow down using the brakes, and when the car has slowed down to the point that it warrants a lower gear, then you shift down to the next year.
BTW: NCPorsche - perhaps you've heard of "heel-toe-downshifting?" This is a technique used in racing that enables the driver to grab a lower gear while under braking. Selecting the lower gear should have no effect on the braking attitude of the car. If you're driving with a proficient heel-toe downshifter, you wouldn't even feel when the lower gear is selected.
-Z.
#7
trick question... NEITHER! if you are on a ramp to turning you shouldn't be downshifting or braking at all. You should have that work done by the time you get to the turn. Go take a DE and you'll understand why.
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#8
Originally Posted by Z-man
Andy:
You first slow down using the brakes, and when the car has slowed down to the point that it warrants a lower gear, then you shift down to the next year.
-Z.
You first slow down using the brakes, and when the car has slowed down to the point that it warrants a lower gear, then you shift down to the next year.
-Z.
You hit the brakes, wonder what that vibration is, shift it into a lower gear, wonder what that drivetrain noise is...check your gas guage and wonder why it says 3/4 when you just filled up...then go on your way!
#9
Originally Posted by AndyK
That's what I said Z!
You hit the brakes, wonder what that vibration is, shift it into a lower gear, wonder what that drivetrain noise is...check your gas guage and wonder why it says 3/4 when you just filled up...then go on your way!
You hit the brakes, wonder what that vibration is, shift it into a lower gear, wonder what that drivetrain noise is...check your gas guage and wonder why it says 3/4 when you just filled up...then go on your way!
#10
Originally Posted by BlueDog944
trick question... NEITHER! if you are on a ramp to turning you shouldn't be downshifting or braking at all. You should have that work done by the time you get to the turn. Go take a DE and you'll understand why.
I think NC's point was whether to use the tranny or brakes to slow the car down, and clearly, the answer is use the brakes.
-Z.
#11
Thanks for the replies. While my question might be construed as rudimentary, this bit of additional knowledge and the quick responses makes Rennlist the web-site for all things Porsche.
I do hope to attend the next DE event at Carolina Motor Sports this fall. The car needs some optional front end work first.
As a follow-up question... Recently I had the back end lose traction on me for the first time. I was in the NC mountians on a gentle rise. The car in front of me pulled over to let me pass. I accellerated and then quickly found myself entering a hairpin turn. I was in second gear taching about 3k. The turn came so quickly I did not have the chance to slow down, so I accelerated, the rear slid out and then slid back. It happened so quick and furtunately there was no oncoming traffic.
What do you do in a situation like this, other than slow down before the turn?
NC
'86 944 NA
I do hope to attend the next DE event at Carolina Motor Sports this fall. The car needs some optional front end work first.
As a follow-up question... Recently I had the back end lose traction on me for the first time. I was in the NC mountians on a gentle rise. The car in front of me pulled over to let me pass. I accellerated and then quickly found myself entering a hairpin turn. I was in second gear taching about 3k. The turn came so quickly I did not have the chance to slow down, so I accelerated, the rear slid out and then slid back. It happened so quick and furtunately there was no oncoming traffic.
What do you do in a situation like this, other than slow down before the turn?
NC
'86 944 NA
#12
Originally Posted by NCporsche
The turn came so quickly I did not have the chance to slow down, so I accelerated, the rear slid out and then slid back. It happened so quick and furtunately there was no oncoming traffic.
What do you do in a situation like this, other than slow down before the turn?
What do you do in a situation like this, other than slow down before the turn?
#13
Well what if all downshifts are done with a rev-match or heel toe.. ?
Thats typically what i do for the street.
I did experiment with trail braking once for an exit ramp..never again, . Ill leave it to autocross.
Thats typically what i do for the street.
I did experiment with trail braking once for an exit ramp..never again, . Ill leave it to autocross.
#14
I do both. I brake and right after i pushed the brakes (still braking) i downshift and revmatch. which is what downshifting SHOULD be...
putting it in a lower gear and popping out the clutch is stupidshifting.
putting it in a lower gear and popping out the clutch is stupidshifting.
#15
Originally Posted by NCporsche
Thanks for the replies. While my question might be construed as rudimentary, this bit of additional knowledge and the quick responses makes Rennlist the web-site for all things Porsche.
I do hope to attend the next DE event at Carolina Motor Sports this fall. The car needs some optional front end work first.
As a follow-up question... Recently I had the back end lose traction on me for the first time. I was in the NC mountians on a gentle rise. The car in front of me pulled over to let me pass. I accellerated and then quickly found myself entering a hairpin turn. I was in second gear taching about 3k. The turn came so quickly I did not have the chance to slow down, so I accelerated, the rear slid out and then slid back. It happened so quick and furtunately there was no oncoming traffic.
What do you do in a situation like this, other than slow down before the turn?
NC
'86 944 NA
I do hope to attend the next DE event at Carolina Motor Sports this fall. The car needs some optional front end work first.
As a follow-up question... Recently I had the back end lose traction on me for the first time. I was in the NC mountians on a gentle rise. The car in front of me pulled over to let me pass. I accellerated and then quickly found myself entering a hairpin turn. I was in second gear taching about 3k. The turn came so quickly I did not have the chance to slow down, so I accelerated, the rear slid out and then slid back. It happened so quick and furtunately there was no oncoming traffic.
What do you do in a situation like this, other than slow down before the turn?
NC
'86 944 NA
for some reason the 944 doesnt like it. i wrecked my car in that fashion. and countless other ppl have spun /wrecked. its worst at the top of hills while turning. SPIN!!!!