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Old 03-31-2006, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by theiceman
IT is no to bad to take the timing belt covers off at all , about 15 minutes work . If all looks okay take off the valve covers off,
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Yeah except the stripped belt could be down at the bottom of the crank. You can't even see that until you get the pulleys off. I could see busted off teeth floating around my cam gear and tensioner.
Old 03-31-2006, 09:46 PM
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First thing to do is to check and see if you have spark. Take a wire off a plug and have someone crank the car while you hold it close to a ground.

Check for fuel next. Does it smell like there's gas?

The next thing that I woudl do would be to check for compression. Pull the plugs, get yourself a compression gauge, about $20, and check each cylinder for compression.

My "S" had two broken intake valve springs and wouldn't start / would barely run. We found it doing a compression test.
Good luck.
Old 03-31-2006, 10:01 PM
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if you can get to see the belt, then put the car in 5th gear and pull the car forwards by hand while watching the belt. Should be able to tell if the teeth are gnashed up without having enough force to damage things if they are.
Old 03-31-2006, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gkummeth
My 1987 944S died (fortunately in the driveway). The car just stopped while idling. Any advice on what I could possibly do myself to diagnose the problem before having the car towed would be appreciated. Also, how would I check to see if the camshaft belt might have given up the fight?

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You don't work on cars, do ya? Tow it to someone that does, save yourself a ton of frustration. Its probably something VERY simple and explainable, I love all the previous suggestions as to what it might be..........butt........come on........it could be a million things. Good luck!
Old 04-01-2006, 01:15 AM
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Umm, I hope it's not the timing belt. One very simple, super simple, thing to do is to listen when you first turn the key... do you hear the fuel pump run? Second easiest thing to do; check all of your fuses... before you start taking things apart.

Don’t give up! The 944 is one of the best handling, best feeling cars out there… I’ve driven a few to know. Even if your engine is blown, you have options if you want to go that far…
Old 04-01-2006, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AZS2
My S2 died in the driveway right after starting it just as you described. Timing belt took a ****. Didn't break, it just stripped the teeth. But its just as bad, I bent all the exhaust valves. When you were cranking it (!DON"T DO IT ANYMORE!), did it sound like there was no compression, or as stated above like a sewing machine? Thats what mine did.

Chances are if your belt stripped, the damage is already done.

My 87 S did the same thing. Stripped the teeth off the belt as I was costing to a stop at a stop sign. The ironic thing was I was going to do the T belt that very weekend as the new belts had JUST arrived the day before...

WRETCHED WORLD ! ! !

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Old 04-01-2006, 06:24 PM
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Following one suggestion, I took my chances and tried starting the car. To my pleasant surprise, it started and idled fine. My guess is that the DME relay is going bad? Maybe something else electrical?

Best news is that no belt broke! I really didn't want major engine work, especially since I have yet to fix the other minor issues (broken sunroof, broken turn signal, broken AC, leaking PS pump, broken fan switch, etc.).
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WELCOME, gkummeth, I am in the North Wales PA area, just above you..If you need any help, Let me know, even with the small issues.
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Originally Posted by IPSC
My 87 S did the same thing. Stripped the teeth off the belt as I was costing to a stop at a stop sign. The ironic thing was I was going to do the T belt that very weekend as the new belts had JUST arrived the day before...

WRETCHED WORLD ! ! !

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That is awful!
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Sounds like the DME relay all right .. but you just had a warning shot ,, and a reminder to the others...
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Originally Posted by gkummeth
Following one suggestion, I took my chances and tried starting the car. To my pleasant surprise, it started and idled fine. My guess is that the DME relay is going bad? Maybe something else electrical?

Best news is that no belt broke! I really didn't want major engine work, especially since I have yet to fix the other minor issues (broken sunroof, broken turn signal, broken AC, leaking PS pump, broken fan switch, etc.).


WOOOO WHOOO ! ! ! that is good news. now lets scare ya with cam chain tensioer failure stories... I love the 16 valve head.

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Old 04-02-2006, 08:10 PM
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GOOD! I'm jealous I wish that was all that happened to me. Do you know the belt history? If not, I suggest you get it taken care of ASAP.
Old 04-02-2006, 08:43 PM
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Man, everyone just assumes broken timing belt here.

Make sure all your electricals are in order. Like was mentioned, the MAF, DME relay, fuel pump (this happened to me, led to same symptoms), spark wire from coil to distributor, ect... Broken belts are usually associated with some noises from the motor, oh, you know, like the valves contacting the pistons.
Old 04-03-2006, 12:35 AM
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Of course veryone assumes that .. probably because everyone has HAD that .. Mine was the chain tensioner ... made the timing belt look like a cheap fix..

eventually got rid of the 944 money pit. I loved it but it was bleeding me worse than my wife .. and something had to go ... was pretty close too :-0



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