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Old 11-29-2005, 11:04 AM
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have a complete 80 924 turbo. will the steering rack, fit and what will it take to put in a 944S?how much hp increase, is it enough to justify swap?
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have a complete 80 924 turbo. will the steering rack, fit and what will it take to put in a 944S?how much hp increase, is it enough to justify swap?
Won't fit without a lot of work. The crossmembers are different, as are the mounting points. I *think* someone on this forum did it a few years back, but I don't recall the amount of work or what he did. You are much better off getting a manual rack from a 944 series car (MY83 or so-equipped euro car).

Keep in mind that your car is a late-offset car, so that even if you get the early 924 rack to fit, or purchase a 944 rack, you will need the special ($$$) late-offset tie rods.

There is no "increase" in HP with this mod, most people do it for better road feel/response, and to eliminate a leaky PS system. The elimination of the PS pulley will probably reduce some parasitic drag on the motor, and the lighter weight manual set-up will be less weight to haul around. But don't do it if getting more HP is your main concern.
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Jeeezzes Marty.. What you cookin up now?? DONT change your car dude- it's PERFECT!


Tifo is absolutely correct.

So- why not resurrect the 931? you have the tools dude..
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always thinking!!!
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Originally Posted by tifosiman
Won't fit without a lot of work. The crossmembers are different, as are the mounting points. I *think* someone on this forum did it a few years back, but I don't recall the amount of work or what he did.
I think it was Dave Miller (Dave951M) who was messing around with that. I'm not sure what happened to him, but I haven't seen him post in ages. He is the guy who was building the aluminum torque tubes. Anyway, he was trying to work something out where he would take your core cross member and mod it to accept the 924 manual racks. Makes sense to a point since there are plenty 924 racks to be had. Only trouble is that once the cross member is modded you can't go back to a later rack

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Keep in mind that your car is a late-offset car, so that even if you get the early 924 rack to fit, or purchase a 944 rack, you will need the special ($$$) late-offset tie rods.
Travis came up with a simple solution to avoid the issue of finding the late offset manual tie rods. Use the early offset manual tie rods, a short section of metric threaded rod and then the outer ends from a power steer tie rod. The threaded rod allows you to use the more common power steering ends as well as making up the lenght difference.
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Travis came up with a simple solution to avoid the issue of finding the late offset manual tie rods. Use the early offset manual tie rods, a short section of metric threaded rod and then the outer ends from a power steer tie rod. The threaded rod allows you to use the more common power steering ends as well as making up the lenght difference.
I read that, but until I see it for myself or try it myself I am afraid to mention it. You know how that goes.
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Yeah, good point. If I had the need I would try it just to see. I'm kind of funny like that. I love trying out ideas and devices, even if I have no need for them, just to see how they work. I need a gig as a product reviewer for a magazine.

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