rotaryzz

>I recommend the plastic heater valve be switched for an Audi 5000 metal valve

Sorry for being ignorance but what's that? Is it something of a cover over the engine??

I've also over heard that by switching the rod end in that car for a much better feel and control. Is that a piece of anti-sway bar assembly?

Thanks,
Pete

Jfrahm

Finding an M030 S2 would be pretty tough. Finding one that is for sale even more so. Depending on how serious you are on the track, much of the M030 stuff might get replaced anyway.

Any S2 is going to have vastly better brakes and sways than a 944 NA, even one with the sport option.

-Joel.

Jfrahm

The heater valve is a water valve that allows hot water to flow through the heater core for cabin heat and defrost. The factory part is plastic and it is located on the RH side of the engine. Sometimes they crack, or so I'm told. Maybe the high temps seen on the track contribute to this. For track duty it is smart to have a metal valve that is less likely to crack.

Rod end? Replace it if it's worn out. Generally that's the tie rod end that connects the steering rack to the hub assembly. You would want to replace any worn parts in the suspension and steering, the ball joints and A-Arm bushings, sway bar bushings, etc.

-Joel.

Brett Jenkins

What area are you in, Pete? My 88 924s with m030 is for sale.

rotaryzz

>.......... much of the M030 stuff might get replaced anyway.

I would presume replicating the M030 on a regular 944 S2 is probably going to cost lots of $$$$!


>Any S2 is going to have vastly better brakes and sways than a 944 NA

Isn't the M030 S2 have an even stronger brake system than a regular 944 S2?


>What area are you in, Pete?

I live in NJ.

Mike Buck

Making the assumption the M030 car you find is still stock . .

the wheels will be marked at the valve stem as “7.5” front and “9” rear.
Bigger front brakes and threaded strut bodies, yellow in color

The only way to verify for sure that the car was a factory M030 is to see the option sticker

Jfrahm

If you got serious on the track you'd probably want coilovers in the rear, an adjustable rear bar, even bigger front swaybar, adjustable droplinks, better shocks all around, etc. Maybe Big Reds or other even larger brake upgrade. The only thing left from the M030 package might be the stronger front hubs. Depends on how much you want, can afford, need, etc.

The M030 S2 should have bigger front brakes but they still fit under 16" wheels. Great brakes but you might want even bigger ones depending on your use.

rotaryzz

>Great brakes but you might want even bigger ones depending on your use.

I guess its the same thing as hp. There is never such a thing as being too big ;-)

Jfrahm

I'm not sure if all years of the M030 S2 had the 7.5" fronts but rear 9" Design 90's would be a clue. For some odd reason my non M030 1990 cab also had 9" rears though, which I think were stock. I put on Clubsports from a M030 turbo S (7" front 9" rear.)

What wheels were on the 951 M030 (non S?)
-Joel.

Dave in Chicago

I never really asked about the intended use other than that stated in the first post. Let me offer another perspective...

Truly, any Porsche will make a great daily driver and occasional track car. I wouldn't necessarily limit oneself to pursuit of M030 spec cars. I ran a bone-stock, floppy-car 944 for 4 years on street tires. It was a blast! Very capable cars, right out of the box. This included 12-20 track days per season.

I only moved into the 968 for more power and with an eye towards building a Club Race car for F-stock (that is the car's current role). I also salivated over finding an M030 car, but they are pretty darn hard to come by (I found none in a reasonable price range during my search).

I soon realized that I would likely rip out all that nice M030 stuff and replace it for racing anyway. The only things from the M030 set-up that I currently have are the front brake calipers (on the shelf in the garage - bought used for later upgrade) and the sway bars ($500 for the set, readily available).

One can always consider a couple of reasonable bite-size upgrades later on.

Just another perspective for you. The key is this. ANY Porsche that is in good working order (just the way Dr. Porsche intended it) will make a great street/occasional DE car.

rotaryzz

>ANY Porsche that is in good working order (just the way Dr. Porsche intended it) will make a great >street/occasional DE car.

Good advice ;-)

ckathens

Hahah Ask Chris Luckett about this one. His 968 is still sitting my garage awaiting a new waterpump before installing the new headgasket........ Damn that heater valve!