easy 20hp more in any 944na
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Originally Posted by 944J
So can you knock of 500lbs easily?
What is the most you can reduce on an na and keep it streetable? Include the possibility to switch to carbon fiber body parts.
What is the most you can reduce on an na and keep it streetable? Include the possibility to switch to carbon fiber body parts.
Pull the rear seat, hatch area carpet, spare tire, jack, sunroof motor, rear speakers, rear wiper, cruise control, AC, windshield washer tank, smaller battery and other easy stuff and you've lost over 200 lbs. OTOH, the MSD box, bigger sway bars, strut tower bar and a few other performance goodies and you've put 20 lbs back on. 500 lbs is probably posible but you'll be lightening your wallet faster than you'll be lighten the car.
Last edited by Dave; 08-03-2005 at 02:11 AM.
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I can see how its hard to loose 500 lbs.
But, if you are selling the stuff you take off then you are hardly spending money to get to 200lbs.
You forgot the passenger seat, & power steering.
So you can get 10hp with weight savings it seems for a street car without going to new body panels. Doesnt sound like a good idea to me.
But, if you are selling the stuff you take off then you are hardly spending money to get to 200lbs.
You forgot the passenger seat, & power steering.
So you can get 10hp with weight savings it seems for a street car without going to new body panels. Doesnt sound like a good idea to me.
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I'm not seling anything, it's all in my garage in case I decide to reinstall any of it. The spare and jack even go back in the car between autocrosses. Lightening does cost money, AC delete requires a belt and bracket, rear wiper delete requires a plug. In my case the cruise control came out to make room for the MSD box. Lighter batteries sometimes cost MORE than standard ones.
I didn't forget the power steering, I just haven't removed it (or spent the $700 for parts) yet. I didn't forget the passenger seat either, the car will remain a 2 seater, but if anyone knows a good deal on some lightweight race seats please let me know.
I didn't forget the power steering, I just haven't removed it (or spent the $700 for parts) yet. I didn't forget the passenger seat either, the car will remain a 2 seater, but if anyone knows a good deal on some lightweight race seats please let me know.
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Originally Posted by pcarphanatik
I would also reccomend going to some light 15" wheels. Unsprung weight is a big concern.
Also another place to lose weight is the driver!![Stick Out Tongue](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Also another place to lose weight is the driver!
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The wheels are easier, Fuchs are nice and light and CCs are only a little heavier, so the early cars are covered. I have no idea which wheels are light when it comes to late offset, Early PDs are pretty heavy and I doubt that the later ones are much lighter.
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Or 75hp to the rear wheels
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Hey Dave,
What class do you run in in autoX? Are they SCCA sanctioned events? I having trouble classing my car with 2005 rule book. I want to lighten it, but according to the book I would be running in prepared or mod class, neither is appealing to me. I was told SM or SM2 on the autoX forum but I don't see where lightenend 944's are welcome there either.
Thanks,
What class do you run in in autoX? Are they SCCA sanctioned events? I having trouble classing my car with 2005 rule book. I want to lighten it, but according to the book I would be running in prepared or mod class, neither is appealing to me. I was told SM or SM2 on the autoX forum but I don't see where lightenend 944's are welcome there either.
Thanks,
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Originally Posted by tomrc
Hey Dave,
What class do you run in in autoX? Are they SCCA sanctioned events? I having trouble classing my car with 2005 rule book. I want to lighten it, but according to the book I would be running in prepared or mod class, neither is appealing to me. I was told SM or SM2 on the autoX forum but I don't see where lightenend 944's are welcome there either.
Thanks,
What class do you run in in autoX? Are they SCCA sanctioned events? I having trouble classing my car with 2005 rule book. I want to lighten it, but according to the book I would be running in prepared or mod class, neither is appealing to me. I was told SM or SM2 on the autoX forum but I don't see where lightenend 944's are welcome there either.
Thanks,
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That's where I'll be running this Sunday, however I can't see where I can really reduce a lot of weight. I can't remove the rear seat at all according to the rules. Or am I reading the rules wrong? It says I can replace the seats with sports seats that are lighter but all the seats have to be there. If I remove the rear seat it puts me in prepared class.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Originally Posted by tomrc
If I remove the rear seat it puts me in prepared class.
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