Co-worker says the 944 is derived from a volkswagen product, I say no.
#33
June 14, 1982
Dr. Porsche
invites you to test drive
the newest Porsche.
944
My family, beginning with my father, has been
designing and building cars for over 80 years.
At first, we worked for other companies.
"But always," my father said, "there were too many
compromises."
So we formed Porsche - to build Porsches. To our
family's own standards. Without compromise.
Our very first Porsche was the 356.
Now there is a new Porsche: the 944.
The 944 has a 2.5-liter, 4-cylinder, aluminum-silicon
alloy Porsche engine - designed at Weissach,
and built at Zuffenhausen.
It achieves a maximum torque of 137.1 ft-lbs as early
as 3000 rpm, and produces 143 hp at 5500 rpm.
On the track, the 944 accelerates from 0 to 50 mph
in 5.9 seconds. And it reaches the 1/4-mile mark from a
standing start in only 16.2 seconds at a speed of 84
mph. Its maximum speed: 130 mph.
The 944 has the Porsche transaxle design-proven at
Le Mans, and refined for everyday driving. It produces a
nearly-perfect 50-50 front-to-rear weight distribution
for balanced braking and improved cornering.
The 944's aerodynamic styling reduces air resistance
and improves road holding.
In fact, as a result of its total design efficiency, the 944
requires only 28 hp to cruise at 55 mph.
To my family, the 944 is more than a new car.
It is a new and true Porsche.
At Porsche, excellence is expected.
Dr. F. Porsche
Stuttgart
Dr. Porsche
invites you to test drive
the newest Porsche.
944
My family, beginning with my father, has been
designing and building cars for over 80 years.
At first, we worked for other companies.
"But always," my father said, "there were too many
compromises."
So we formed Porsche - to build Porsches. To our
family's own standards. Without compromise.
Our very first Porsche was the 356.
Now there is a new Porsche: the 944.
The 944 has a 2.5-liter, 4-cylinder, aluminum-silicon
alloy Porsche engine - designed at Weissach,
and built at Zuffenhausen.
It achieves a maximum torque of 137.1 ft-lbs as early
as 3000 rpm, and produces 143 hp at 5500 rpm.
On the track, the 944 accelerates from 0 to 50 mph
in 5.9 seconds. And it reaches the 1/4-mile mark from a
standing start in only 16.2 seconds at a speed of 84
mph. Its maximum speed: 130 mph.
The 944 has the Porsche transaxle design-proven at
Le Mans, and refined for everyday driving. It produces a
nearly-perfect 50-50 front-to-rear weight distribution
for balanced braking and improved cornering.
The 944's aerodynamic styling reduces air resistance
and improves road holding.
In fact, as a result of its total design efficiency, the 944
requires only 28 hp to cruise at 55 mph.
To my family, the 944 is more than a new car.
It is a new and true Porsche.
At Porsche, excellence is expected.
Dr. F. Porsche
Stuttgart
#35
My boss said the same thing. Then he asked me if he could see the engine, and moved around and stood at the back... No im not kidding. Hes into all the old 32 Fords and stuff... So I take his car opinions with a metric ****ton of salt.
#39
Originally Posted by Geo
Nope, but the RSX is, and the Integra was, and the NSX was, and.....
Sorry, back OT. the nsx IS.....
Still being made, although we only got about 400 last year.
Pretty common misconception.
#40
Notice this tidbit of marketing trickery in the article posted above about the new 944 -- "On the track, the 944 accelerates from 0 to 50 mph in 5.9 seconds." A person reading quickly may easily miss the fact that its not a 0 to 60 time. Smart move on their part
#41
Lots of car ads did that in the 70's and early 80's. Very dark days. Interestingly, I had my battery out today and noticed a VW/Audi stamp in the sheetmetal of the battery box (on the fender side). I've certainly noticed VW/Audi symbols on many parts (e.g., the washer tank cap) that I assume were common to other VW/Audi products, but I'd never noticed it on the sheet metal before. Seems odd, although I guess not since the bodies were stamped and built at neckarsulm (an NSU *** VW/Audi plant).
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Thanks for all the responses, I did learn quite a lot.
I did win the argument with my co-worker (he has retracted his claim), our chassis was never used in a VW production vehicle.
thanks,
Jon
I did win the argument with my co-worker (he has retracted his claim), our chassis was never used in a VW production vehicle.
thanks,
Jon
#43
Isn't it common knowledge that on the early 944 ('83-'85) the front lower controls arms (and their cheap, easily replaced ball joints) and some parts of the rear suspension were taken unaltered directly from the VW Rabbit?
My take on this is that ALL Porsches are descended from the original VW, including the 911.
My take on this is that ALL Porsches are descended from the original VW, including the 911.
#44
In the case of the Japanese cars, this would be true. The Lexi are sold as Toys in the rest of the world. The Accuras are Honduhs in the rest of the world. Infinitis are Nissans in the rest of the world (for instance the Infiniti G20 I used to own is known as a Nissan Primera in the rest of the world). But, that is not even the point. The point was "derived from." In the case of the Jags I'm not sure, but I do know the X-type is derived from a Euro Ford product (Mondeo IIRC).
The Toyota National Bank (what the Japanese refer to Toyota as ) is launching the Lexus brand name in Japan. Honda is following suit and it is presumed that Nissan will be behind them by about 1 year. The newest Skyline will launch as an Nissan in Japan but they already have a luxury car du jour ready for their Infiniti line.
X-type is derived from the Mondeo, IIRC and Ford does own Jaguar.
While we are on the subject, the Saab 92X is nothing more than a rebadged WRX with a higher price tag.
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Originally Posted by JDeitz951
My take on this is that ALL Porsches are descended from the original VW, including the 911.
-Mark