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Old 02-25-2005, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Zero10
It's probably at 50 or 55mph. 35mph wouldn't do that kind of damage.
Someone in the E-Mail lists explained that when Porsche designed the 924/944 cars, the U.S. DOT had announced that crash testing speed would be increased to 55 mph versus the standard 35 mph or so.

All the major auto makers fought the change and succeeded in upholding the lower crash test speed, but by that time Porsche had already gone ahead and made a significant R&D effort to design the 924/944 cars to pass this more severe crash testing.

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An offset frontal collsion with a chevy pick-up. Driver's side fender well was pushed in some too, but my father was uninjured and engine was not damaged at all.
This would explain the cars' extraordinary crash resistance in spite of having been developed 30 years ago.
Old 02-25-2005, 10:55 AM
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Good info, Luis. Thanks.
Old 02-25-2005, 11:13 AM
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If it was tested at 55mph then it sure took it like a champ.
Old 02-25-2005, 12:23 PM
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The car might survive, but can a person go from 55 to zero and live? I wouldn't wanna test that theory, especially since I just got my leather shift boot from Rennbay - I wanna try it out!
Old 02-25-2005, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyK
The car might survive, but can a person go from 55 to zero and live?
The whole point of "crash testing" a car is determining from the test dummies whether the occupants would survive.

Making a car sustain the impact is not nearly as hard as designing it to protect the occupants in a collision.
Old 02-25-2005, 12:46 PM
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Ah...got it. Pretty cool! Wonder if the new Porsches are as tough?
Old 02-25-2005, 12:51 PM
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I think from what I read the human body can take something rediculous amount of G forces? for fractions of a second given perfect conditions. However the major problem is basilar skull fracture most of the time over will happen around 40g in a wreck even if are 100% fine physicly from the accident. This is the reason that the hans device was created to stop forward snap of the head so that the spinal cord is not ripped from the brain.

Here is a similated 45g wreck with and without hans device..

Old 02-25-2005, 12:52 PM
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AndyK -> 55 to 0, u kidding, those maglev roller coaster do just about that. I think its well within our tolerances. I remember watching something on the discovery channel where some guy (dumbass, no pun) strapped himself to the front of a rocket attached to a railway track to do this type of test. they accelerated him to some absured speed and abruptly stopped the rocket, it stopped so fast, muscle and tenton was torn from his face, i belive he was temporarily blind for some time, but he survived. I bet he didnt even get paid for it.

patrat -> seriouly man, Ild think wolverine would bust outta that picture if i looked hard enough. actually, looks kinda cool. nice sideburns
Old 02-25-2005, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by unreal_news
AndyK -> 55 to 0, u kidding, those maglev roller coaster do just about that. I think its well within our tolerances.
It's amazing what fighter pilots endure. I recall something about neurological damage over time from their brain shifting inside their skull from the amount of Gs they withstand.
Old 02-25-2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Luis de Prat
It's amazing what fighter pilots endure. I recall something about neurological damage over time from their brain shifting inside their skull from the amount of Gs they withstand.

Soon, I think they will have remote planes.. I think that will be pretty interesting. The only issue I see is someone hacking the plane frequency and useing the planes to do harm against americans instead of for americans. I have also heard that G-forces will make bobsleaders shorter overtime up to 1-2". I wonder if the same is true for some types of car racing?
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To me it appears that this photo was taken during the impact, not after it. The dummy is still pitched forward on the bag. After the full impact, the dummy usually rebounds back into the seat.
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Why would the use D90's on the front but PD's on the rear?
Old 02-25-2005, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Strike-Force
Why would the use D90's on the front but PD's on the rear?
I don't know but I've got PD's on the back and some borbet's on the front right now.
I wish the snow would go away and I could put my summer tires back on.

Seriously though, it's amazing how well these cars do in a crash considering how old they are.
Old 02-25-2005, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Strike-Force
Why would the use D90's on the front but PD's on the rear?
Not that this affects the validity of your question, but those are forged flat dishes in the front.
Old 02-25-2005, 03:53 PM
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the different wheels may be a result of numerous tests and having to use mismatched wheels to complete the tests.....doesn't sound reasonable, though


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