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Old 10-15-2004, 12:17 PM
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Now I'm afriad to drive the Camaro. The front end and doors are plastic, the hood and rear quarters are metal and the hatch is glass. Am I driving an accident waiting to happen.

How does a crumple zone work on a car that is made of plastic? Does it bounce back?

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27 is pretty impressive. I think Keith Martin of Sports Car Market got something like that on the Vette he drove up to Alaska last summer.

I am taking the Camaro with 275+ hp to Florence KY next week. I will report back on the mileage. I didn't get more than 25 or 26 in the red S2 and never broke 24 in the Legend Coupe, but that always had a ski rack on it for long trips. My brother got 29 in his 84 when we he bought it and drove from Carlisle PA to NY.

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Me too! But I get to pay two insurance premiums. Nananananana!
Old 10-15-2004, 12:22 PM
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Tom, I never got over 25.2 average (avg of a whole tank) with my 85 4 + 3 stick but this automatic gets better (both the 25.2 and 27 are all highway). Its in amazing condition mechanically and cosmetically considering it has 278k miles on it.
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Originally Posted by Neon Driver
I would take a 944 over an 80's vette anyday. I would rather survive in a crash then die in a piece of plastic. THats right plastic. All that car is plastic aka fiberglass.
Actually, a car that disintegrates around you is much much safer for the passengers in a crash, than a car that is all metal and does not disintegrate. The force of a crash is expelled when the car breaks apart, where as in an all metal car, the force is transfered to the occupants of the vehicles.
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What I was saying is that these vettes have a tendency to throw one or more of these broken parts in a collision into the passenger compartment from what I have heard. For the convertible, I hope I never roll it because there is NO protection other than the very thin A pillar and windshield.
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Are these vettes reliable?

How are maintanance expenses?

Can a do-it-yourselfer service it?

I'm not very fond of American cars, but the vette makes me feel funny inside....
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These 350 v8s are nearly bulletproof. You can hurt them real bad but its hard to kill one. It is much more do it yourselfer serviceable than a 944 or 951. Most any mechanic can work on these since the tune port injected motors are available for all the 80s IROC camaros though most are 305 CI instead of 350 CI. The engine block is basically the same as any 350 from the early 70s and you can buy parts at just about any liquor store. These old american cars have their share of problems but this one at 278k miles is holding up very well.
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278k with no rebuild on an American 350 with no major rebuild/engine work? I'm impressed. I don't know if it's because of the a-team or what, but I love the look of these cars. Also, I'm stuck in the 80's so I think I'll start dreaming on ebay now......
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Originally Posted by Porsche5050
Are these vettes reliable?

How are maintanance expenses?

Can a do-it-yourselfer service it?

I'm not very fond of American cars, but the vette makes me feel funny inside....
The great thing about Chevys is aside from something like a new OptiSpark ignition at $320 the parts are cheap.

When I picked up the Z28 last year I took it to my wrench for a PPI (post purchase inspection) to make sure I didn't make a mistake.

We discussed things to do and I said I would pick up something stupid like brake pads. He laughed, woulda spit out his coffee if he was drinking one.

He then said something like "Holmes, let me remind you that even though this car is red like your porsche was it is not a porsche. I can pick up chevy parts from any parts store without mortgaging the house. just drop the car off and come back a few days later."

The mechanicals are pretty much bulletproof. The chevy V8 is the Timex of motors just look at all the caprice taxis and vans that had/have them.

Plus, the modification options are endless. How bout twenty different shock choices instead of three, and the list goes on.
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Porsche5050, the car is an original owner car and appears to have been babied, thus explaining the condition of the drivetrain. It has some oil leaks around the valve cover and pan but it does not drip. The cooling fan was not working along with a/c, right window, and the headlight motor. Very much unlike the 944/951, I have to try hard NOT to spin the tire even in a moderate takeoff especially in wet. Tom, one of these days I will get a later z28 with the 6 speed. I heard they are more difficult to work on than the vettes but if the price is cheap enough one day, I will get one.
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Originally Posted by Tom R.
The mechanicals are pretty much bulletproof. The chevy V8 is the Timex of motors just look at all the caprice taxis and vans that had/have them.
I'll say the same thing about the Olds 350. The one in my Delta 88 has 1/4 million miles, give or take and still has stock compression all the way around. The engine never gave me any problems. The transmission, on the other hand...
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My brother with the 87 911 cab and I were recently talking about how affordable the new vette is compared to anything new Porsche with power. I know they have a tendency to be lower quality, but last year I saw a new vette consistantly beat a 996 with a turbo on a very Porsche loving track. It impressed me. I know both of the drivers and neither of them are sloughs.

Just a thought. They have come a long way.
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Good luck with your Z51. I had a brand-new 1989 Corvette and then purchased my 87 951 used. I had them both for six months and would drive them hard back to back over the same roads. I found the 951 handling and high end acceleration more to my liking. For normal driving though, the Corvette's low end torque was very nice. I sold my Corvette with 8,000 miles because I like the 951 better.
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Welcome to the dark side buddy! congradulations on the vette..

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Originally Posted by Neon Driver
I would take a 944 over an 80's vette anyday. I would rather survive in a crash then die in a piece of plastic. THats right plastic. All that car is plastic aka fiberglass.


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