Turbo in my 90 944S2 Convertible
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I was wondering if anyone here has put a turbo in a S2 and how much did you pay for it? I was looking for a little extra power. I was hoping for over 300.
Oh and by the way there is no way I'm gonna sell a convertible for a 951!
Also, does anyone know if there is any after market steering wheels that have airbags? Or can I just get rid of the airbags (they don't work anyway) and use one of the non-airbag steering wheels, like the MOMO ones for example. Are they a direct fit or are the airbagged steering wheels mounted different than the non airbagged wheels? The steering wheel is this ugly faded blue color that apparently once matched the dash board (that was refinished black). It needs to go.
Oh and by the way there is no way I'm gonna sell a convertible for a 951!
Also, does anyone know if there is any after market steering wheels that have airbags? Or can I just get rid of the airbags (they don't work anyway) and use one of the non-airbag steering wheels, like the MOMO ones for example. Are they a direct fit or are the airbagged steering wheels mounted different than the non airbagged wheels? The steering wheel is this ugly faded blue color that apparently once matched the dash board (that was refinished black). It needs to go.
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Just get rid of the airbags. I hit a hill going...fast...and bent the frame of my car. The airbags didnt deply..You can buy a momo steering wheel. You just need the hub that goes in between the wheel and the dash. Look for a 944 specific one. Also, they have turboed a DOHC engine in the 968 turbo. Good luck with that. Lots and Lots of work. Just look for a 951 convertible. YOu really have no hope of turboing a dohc unless you have a lot of knowledge, money or both! Good luck.
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Originally Posted by bball1561
what year was the 951 convertible? I had no idea they made one? How many did they made?
They made 527 of them and I think the year was 1991. None exported to the US.
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I'm going to start working on swapping my turbo engine (after I rebuild and slightly modify it) into my S2. Looks to be a pretty easy swap. The only thing I'm even slightly concerned about is the gauge cluster. I'm planning to swap out my tach/boost gauge from the turbo to the S2 cluster (86 versus 90 cluster). The rest should be a slam dunk.
I'll keep you apprised!
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This is an interesting topic to me, as I plan to do this very thing within the next year or so. Basically, if you don't have a $hit load of time and money to drop, don't even think about it. You're also going to need to know what you are doing or you'll end up with car that never gets finished, or blows up on your first test drive....Maybe check out www.speedforceracing.com or www.andersonmotorworksinc.com for their supercharger conversions. This would be a less costly bolt on modification that will easily bring the power you are looking for.
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Here we go again. You might want to check the archives, but general concensus has always been that it's not worth doing.
If you want a turbo, you should just buy a tubo, unless you have lots of money and/or time and don't mind spending it on a car that will probably never be worth what you put into it.
As far I recall only one person has actually done this, and Swedish insurance laws were a major factor.
Your car will be worth more stock.
If you want a turbo, you should just buy a tubo, unless you have lots of money and/or time and don't mind spending it on a car that will probably never be worth what you put into it.
As far I recall only one person has actually done this, and Swedish insurance laws were a major factor.
Your car will be worth more stock.
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I have to disagree with Peckster, it is totally worth doing. I have a 91 S2 that I bought very cheap that had an engine fire and I put in the drivetrain from a mint 86 951 with 70K that had been t-boned at an intersection. My conversion was alot more difficult then most since I swapped out every component in the engine compartment due to the fire. It really is not bad. The 951 engine fits in perfect, the S2 has built in intercooler mounts so it really fits in perfect. The hardest part is the wiring. I am not sure if you can just swap in the engine with the computers, but I had to replace the entire front wiring harness and then I spliced it to the rear wiring harness. Again, not especially difficult just time consuming. The effect of a turbo in a cab is incredible. When you hear the turbo spool up and the wastegate dump with the top down on the highway it will be completely worth it. Shop around for a complete 951 engine, with all the accesories and wiring harness and computers, or find a wrecked 951 for parts, I think that would be easiest. Don't let the naysayers get you down. If you want it, it just takes time and effort, not that much money. Good luck and if you have any questions, hit me with a PM or email at maciek.kepka@richmond.edu
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Oh yeah, I also ditched the airbags, I have the 951 steering wheel in mine (just like the original 951 Cabs) but I plan to upgrade to a 968CS wheel when funds allow for it. Tom R. has a write up on his website on how to disconnect the airbags.
Also, 9fiffty1, the 968 turbos were SOHC. They only had 8 valves like the 951 engine. Some aftermarket tuners (like powerhaus, and I believe Chris Cervelli of underpressureperfomance) have done the 16V turbo engines, but most 3L turbos use a a 8v head that is a modified head of the 2.7L NA 944.
Also, 9fiffty1, the 968 turbos were SOHC. They only had 8 valves like the 951 engine. Some aftermarket tuners (like powerhaus, and I believe Chris Cervelli of underpressureperfomance) have done the 16V turbo engines, but most 3L turbos use a a 8v head that is a modified head of the 2.7L NA 944.
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If you're a good wrench, you can do it yourself. Otherwise it'll cost you upwards of 16K to 30K, at least that what Powerhaus charges. I spent some time there a month or so ago getting a quote for my cab. Plan on keeping the car, you'll never get your money out of it, though.
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Originally Posted by aeronautica86
There is a huge difference in swapping a 951 motor into an S2 chassis and turbocharging an S2 motor....so which are we talking about here?
I have to agree with those who have stated that swapping in a 951 motor/drivetrain as being the way to go if you have to have a turbo motor in an S2 cab. Not only would it probably be cheaper, it would be a factory-created system that would be easier to maintain/modify/service in the future. Plus, if done right, it would really be no different than a factory-made 951 cab.