Notices
924/931/944/951/968 Forum Porsche 924, 924S, 931, 944, 944S, 944S2, 951, and 968 discussion, how-to guides, and technical help. (1976-1995)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

FTech9 944 Spec DME

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-17-2023 | 03:35 PM
  #1  
TurrFinn's Avatar
TurrFinn
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 197
Likes: 17
Default FTech9 944 Spec DME

Does anyone have experience with the FTech9 944 Spec DME. Do they reuse your old DME casing? Mine is an early model casing with a late model motherboard inside. Does anyone know where the flywheel sensor chip is? My DME recently cooked itself.
Old 01-17-2023 | 03:53 PM
  #2  
Millermatic's Avatar
Millermatic
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 503
Likes: 131
From: Maryland
Default

Give Joe a call or shoot him an email. He’s pretty responsive.

You don’t have to send yours in first. You can buy a new one and he will refund a core charge when you send your old one in.
The following users liked this post:
vacuumnoise (04-24-2023)
Old 01-17-2023 | 09:21 PM
  #3  
Tiger03447's Avatar
Tiger03447
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 153
From: Elizabethton,TN
Default 944 DME

AFAIK, Joe doesn’t rebuild early DME’s…yet. He will require you to purchase a later model one. He will modify that one for you and make it fit your early DME plug. It will make your engine perform more smoothly and with several problems eliminated. He is currently working on an AFM that will be in total agreement with your new DME. This will give you better airflow and metering instead of the AFM with its barn door. Read all of the fetch 9 posts and you will get a better understanding of what he does and why. Just sayin, Thanks😀.
The following users liked this post:
vacuumnoise (04-24-2023)
Old 01-18-2023 | 10:54 AM
  #4  
TurrFinn's Avatar
TurrFinn
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 197
Likes: 17
Default

Originally Posted by Tiger03447
AFAIK, Joe doesn’t rebuild early DME’s…yet. He will require you to purchase a later model one. He will modify that one for you and make it fit your early DME plug. It will make your engine perform more smoothly and with several problems eliminated. He is currently working on an AFM that will be in total agreement with your new DME. This will give you better airflow and metering instead of the AFM with its barn door. Read all of the fetch 9 posts and you will get a better understanding of what he does and why. Just sayin, Thanks😀.
Well its a weird send in for me. I have a late model DME the 28 pin kind but its in a early model DME casing, I read from the Spec DME listing he only reuses the external connector and the flywheel sensor chip. Is that something he will still want me to send in?
Old 01-18-2023 | 02:18 PM
  #5  
tempest411's Avatar
tempest411
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,794
Likes: 182
From: Discovery Bay, CA
Default

Originally Posted by TurrFinn
Well its a weird send in for me. I have a late model DME the 28 pin kind but its in a early model DME casing, I read from the Spec DME listing he only reuses the external connector and the flywheel sensor chip. Is that something he will still want me to send in?
How did you end up with a late board on an early case? I thought the cases were the same anyway..
Old 01-18-2023 | 02:53 PM
  #6  
TurrFinn's Avatar
TurrFinn
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 197
Likes: 17
Default

Originally Posted by tempest411
How did you end up with a late board on an early case? I thought the cases were the same anyway..
The original owner of the car put a 28pin motherboard in his cars DME so he could run the Floyd Wilkes chip. The early model casing has 4 screws front and back and the late model has tabs and you can only open it from one side. I think the late model has screws too but only on the side the tabs are on.

Edit: Its very confusing on why the guy put it in a early model casing but the DME is 28 and the early model casings were never 28 or even 24 pin. So confusing I'm not gonna lie.

Last edited by TurrFinn; 01-18-2023 at 02:57 PM.
Old 01-19-2023 | 01:24 AM
  #7  
TurrFinn's Avatar
TurrFinn
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 197
Likes: 17
Default

I don't want to have to open a new thread for a simple question. Do I have to send FTech9 my DME or can I just buy it. In the policies sections of their website I quote:

"DME Core Charge Policy:
Focus 9 Technology, LLC offers an optional refundable core charge for its DME products. To qualify for a full refund, you must send in your core DME within 30 days from the date you receive your F9T DME. Your core DME must be from a late model 944 (1985.5 to 1991) equipped with an 8-valve engine. The core must have the following components in reusable condition with good aesthetic appearance: enclosure lid, enclosure base, system connector and S100 microchip. Your refund may be prorated depending on the condition of one or more of these parts at our discretion."

Does the initial price account for not sending in your DME? If you send your DME in you will receive a refund if you choose to not send in your DME you will not get the refund?
Sorry for the idiotic questions but I'm having a hard time comprehending the description of the product vs their policies vs what people say.

Thanks,
TurrFinn
Old 01-19-2023 | 09:18 AM
  #8  
951Dreams's Avatar
951Dreams
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,110
Likes: 61
From: Pineville, MO
Default

I think your best bet is just to talk to Joe.
Old 01-19-2023 | 10:03 AM
  #9  
DrewM's Avatar
DrewM
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 101
Likes: 39
Default

Ditto I would just ask, or you can always pickup a DME from one of the used parts places/Ebay, I almost did that but ran out of motivation and just sent mine off for Joe to do his magic.
Old 01-19-2023 | 10:20 AM
  #10  
TurrFinn's Avatar
TurrFinn
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 197
Likes: 17
Default

I've sent him an email but have yet to receive a response
Old 01-19-2023 | 04:22 PM
  #11  
951Dreams's Avatar
951Dreams
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,110
Likes: 61
From: Pineville, MO
Default

He's on here quite a bit. @Ftech9 calling Joe.
Old 01-19-2023 | 05:43 PM
  #12  
Ftech9's Avatar
Ftech9
Rennlist
Basic Site Sponsor
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 346
Likes: 386
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by TurrFinn
Well its a weird send in for me. I have a late model DME the 28 pin kind but its in a early model DME casing, I read from the Spec DME listing he only reuses the external connector and the flywheel sensor chip. Is that something he will still want me to send in?
Hello,

Do you have pictures of this early DME with late model electronics installed? Not sure exactly how this could be possible because the 35pin system connector pinout is mirrored, I would very much like to see this.

In any case, at this time I can only upgrade a late model 944 8-Valve DME to a 944SPEC or Sport DME. However, I do offer a refundable core charge if this is a better option.

-Joe
__________________
http://www.ftech9.com/
Old 01-19-2023 | 07:37 PM
  #13  
TurrFinn's Avatar
TurrFinn
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 197
Likes: 17
Default

I only presume its late model electronics because it has a 28 pin chip installed, so I could be wrong about the electronics but in my mind 28 pin is late model tech. The casing doesn't have the bendable tabs and I can take the cover off on both sides so I know that part of it is early model. Also just a quick question, I read your policies about the core and read something about it being optional. Can I still buy an DME from you without having to send one in? Sourcing a late model in nice condition is so hard.


Last edited by TurrFinn; 01-19-2023 at 07:40 PM.
Old 01-19-2023 | 07:51 PM
  #14  
TurrFinn's Avatar
TurrFinn
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 197
Likes: 17
Default

You peaked my interest with it being 35 pin and I counted the pins on my DME and I counted 35, is there suppose to be less?
Edit: If you want more photos of it I can provide snap some more and if you want me to open it up and take a photo of anything specific I can do that too.



Last edited by TurrFinn; 01-19-2023 at 07:54 PM.
Old 01-19-2023 | 08:52 PM
  #15  
951Dreams's Avatar
951Dreams
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,110
Likes: 61
From: Pineville, MO
Default

I'm going to agree with you that that case is an early model. And the DME itself. However, that whole piece where the power prom chip is? That's all a hack job. The lighter green board where it sits? That's some kind of 28 pin adapter. I'm guessing to do exactly what we see here, use a 28 pin in an early DME. Are there chips UNDER that board? (the light green adapter board). Or I wonder if those have been removed and those extra chips on the light green board replace them?

I may be talking out of my *** here. I'm talking like I know what I'm talking about. But I Googled early DME's, and there is a very through write-up (right here on rennlist)on a 83 DME, and yours looks exactly like it, except that board I'm calling an adapter. and those black wires connecting to it? Don't see that on any other board I could find. So I'm calling what I said above an educated guess. Here's that 83 I'm talking about:


In fact, in your pic, I can see several of the chips from the picture above have been totally removed from your board. All those on the outside, and in the area where that adapter board is.

That's one hacked-up DME dude!

Last edited by 951Dreams; 01-19-2023 at 08:54 PM.


Quick Reply: FTech9 944 Spec DME



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:18 PM.