Sports Car Revolution- SpeedTV
03-26-2004 | 12:23 PM
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Sports Car Revolution- SpeedTV
Anybody seen this? I just watched a late Porsche automatic beat a 1970 Camaro in a 1/4 mile!!
It was just on- I'd really like to tape it.. classic footage.
Schedule...
Tuesdays, 7:30pm & 12:30am
Fridays, 10:30am
Sundays 6pm
SpeedTV- All times Eastern
"March 16 - Brakes are more involved than you may think. Our expert explodes some myths and delivers a must see oratory on the subject. We build an intake and exhaust for our KIA which actually adds over ten percent in horsepower. We drive a new Mazda and an old Porsche."
Sounds like fun! It's with the same guys from "Dream Car Garage" if you remember that.
http://www.speedtv.com/programs/198/
It was just on- I'd really like to tape it.. classic footage.
Schedule...
Tuesdays, 7:30pm & 12:30am
Fridays, 10:30am
Sundays 6pm
SpeedTV- All times Eastern
"March 16 - Brakes are more involved than you may think. Our expert explodes some myths and delivers a must see oratory on the subject. We build an intake and exhaust for our KIA which actually adds over ten percent in horsepower. We drive a new Mazda and an old Porsche."
Sounds like fun! It's with the same guys from "Dream Car Garage" if you remember that.
http://www.speedtv.com/programs/198/
03-26-2004 | 12:49 PM
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I saw one a couple nights ago.
They had an RSX they were modding-up.
They put a cat back exhaust and did some dyno tests.
Nice thing was that they were looking for only about 5 hp not 15 to 20 most ricer boast.
Afterdoing some pulls they went on to desribe for 5 min how they LOST hp.
Turns out the lost 7 hp with cat back. They switched back to stock and lost 12 hp. After much head scratching they zeroed on the brakes. They had done a big brake upgrade. While they said the brakes were actually lighter their larger diameter actually created more interia and this lower HP readings on the dyno. Wow Amazing that they showed the big brakes are not always good. They also showed that the catback was good for about 5 hp.
The only thing they missed was the change in brakes does cause them to lose hp. It does impact the inertia and therefore a inertia dyno's measurement. Actual HP and torgue are not impacted. That is why the car on the track did not seem down on HP.
But that show was a night and day to the stuipd "Tuner Transformation" show just before it. I think I will actually watch Sports Car Revoluition as they seems to at least know something.
They had an RSX they were modding-up.
They put a cat back exhaust and did some dyno tests.
Nice thing was that they were looking for only about 5 hp not 15 to 20 most ricer boast.
Afterdoing some pulls they went on to desribe for 5 min how they LOST hp.
Turns out the lost 7 hp with cat back. They switched back to stock and lost 12 hp. After much head scratching they zeroed on the brakes. They had done a big brake upgrade. While they said the brakes were actually lighter their larger diameter actually created more interia and this lower HP readings on the dyno. Wow Amazing that they showed the big brakes are not always good. They also showed that the catback was good for about 5 hp.
The only thing they missed was the change in brakes does cause them to lose hp. It does impact the inertia and therefore a inertia dyno's measurement. Actual HP and torgue are not impacted. That is why the car on the track did not seem down on HP.
But that show was a night and day to the stuipd "Tuner Transformation" show just before it. I think I will actually watch Sports Car Revoluition as they seems to at least know something.
03-26-2004 | 01:20 PM
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Tuner Transformation = car wreck (want to look away, but have to see how it turned out)
Sports Car Revolution, I have not figured out if its a good show, or because it comes on right after Tuner Trasformation that it only looks good next the craptastic nature of the first show...... Contrast does interesting things.
Sports Car Revolution, I have not figured out if its a good show, or because it comes on right after Tuner Trasformation that it only looks good next the craptastic nature of the first show...... Contrast does interesting things.
03-26-2004 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by SamGrant951
tuner transformation is the gayest show on TV. Right after Style Court of course...
tuner transformation is the gayest show on TV. Right after Style Court of course...
03-26-2004 | 03:52 PM
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sports car is the real deal, the guys are into numbers, not rice. tuner trans. if def. a stupid show. but, all car content is welcomed. Anything is better than another TLC trading places rerun!
anyone watch chappelle this week? great!
anyone watch chappelle this week? great!
03-26-2004 | 04:02 PM
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Sports Car Revolution is awesome. It has those two goofy Canadians from Dream Car Garage.
Did you see that bit were the guy brought out some pillows for Peter to sit on so he could reach the pedals and see over that dash? I about pee'ed my pants.
Anyway, regarding the brakes and dyno run, they pointed out that while the brakes ate into the power to the wheels that it was an OK trade off because they had better brake feel and could brake later.
Not he first time I've seen or read something somewhat critical of big brake conversions though. GRM did a big brake swap on some car a couple years ago and found that stopping distances went up but they fortunately had less fade and lower temps.
Did you see that bit were the guy brought out some pillows for Peter to sit on so he could reach the pedals and see over that dash? I about pee'ed my pants.
Anyway, regarding the brakes and dyno run, they pointed out that while the brakes ate into the power to the wheels that it was an OK trade off because they had better brake feel and could brake later.
Not he first time I've seen or read something somewhat critical of big brake conversions though. GRM did a big brake swap on some car a couple years ago and found that stopping distances went up but they fortunately had less fade and lower temps.
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03-26-2004 | 04:08 PM
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Yep... the GRM article focused on brake bias as the result. Changeing rotors and caliper impacted the brake bais this not improving stoping distances. If you adjusted the brake bias to compensate properly stopping distaces improved a little.
03-27-2004 | 11:04 AM
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I just found out Peter Klutt drove Targa Newfoundland last year..
That's a freaking race man. wow.
A couple of 944's did it last year..
http://www.targanewfoundland.com/
That's a freaking race man. wow.
A couple of 944's did it last year..
http://www.targanewfoundland.com/
03-27-2004 | 11:33 AM
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Tuner Transformation is the bastard child of Monster Garage and Trading Spaces, just trash.
Sports Car Revolutions is pretty good, intelligent information, and they got those two Canadian guys to tone it down a little from Dream Car Garage, they're actually moderately funny now. The shows I've seen they drove a 996, I think it was a C4S, they ended up drag racing it against a 70's Camaro on slicks, and the 996 won! I've also seen them drive a Lotus Elan, Buick Grand National, an MG, and a Dodge Omni GLH, a factory 250HP Omni! I like the obscure stuff, much more interesting than all the muscle car stuff on Speed for the Nascar crowd.
Sports Car Revolutions is pretty good, intelligent information, and they got those two Canadian guys to tone it down a little from Dream Car Garage, they're actually moderately funny now. The shows I've seen they drove a 996, I think it was a C4S, they ended up drag racing it against a 70's Camaro on slicks, and the 996 won! I've also seen them drive a Lotus Elan, Buick Grand National, an MG, and a Dodge Omni GLH, a factory 250HP Omni! I like the obscure stuff, much more interesting than all the muscle car stuff on Speed for the Nascar crowd.