Now WHY don't you want a sunroof?
#16
Originally posted by Legoland951
The sunroof is pretty useless in my opinion (only useful for breaking). They should have made a roof that slides back automatically.
The sunroof is pretty useless in my opinion (only useful for breaking). They should have made a roof that slides back automatically.
#17
Originally posted by Fuzzbeaner
Also does anyone have an actual verified figure for stock '77 924 coupe weight? I've gotton anything from 2350 to 2650.
Also does anyone have an actual verified figure for stock '77 924 coupe weight? I've gotton anything from 2350 to 2650.
http://www.connact.com/~kgross/FAQ/944faq02.html
Also, I just found this page, which looks like it came directly from the owner's manual:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/derrickd99/924spec.htm
So I'm guessing it's either 2344 lbs or 2623 lbs.
#18
It's 2344 lbs, the 2623 lb figure is for A/C equiped late model cars, which had a heavier transmission and more electrical crap. 77-79 were the lightest 924s, 79 being preferable because of the 5 speed and the light weight.
#23
Originally posted by Cass944
would'nt the car be lighter because you could just take the top off?
or is there some rule saying you have to fahe a roof on your car when racing?
would'nt the car be lighter because you could just take the top off?
or is there some rule saying you have to fahe a roof on your car when racing?
#24
The quoted weights on those pages are always alittle off. It quotes my 83 as weighing 2675. In stock trim it weighed around 2800lbs. After a good deal of work, AC Delete, battery, exhaust, etc, I got it down to 2600.
#25
Originally posted by iloveporsches
Go manual. It's better.
Manual steering: no stupid leaking PS pumps/lines, and no busted pumps.
Manual roof: no stripped gears, no bad wiring, no misalignment. Just lift it with your damn hand.
Go manual. It's better.
Manual steering: no stupid leaking PS pumps/lines, and no busted pumps.
Manual roof: no stripped gears, no bad wiring, no misalignment. Just lift it with your damn hand.
#26
Originally posted by iloveporsches
In any of the SCCA races with Boxsters, they run with hardtops.
In any of the SCCA races with Boxsters, they run with hardtops.
Dave: you disagree with my original statement, but consider this: a roof without a sunroof is as stiff without the reinforcements as a roof is with a sunroof + reinforcements. Therefore, you have a chassis that is as stiff without the extra weight, so stiffness is still a factor, IMHO.
-Z-man.
#27
Originally posted by Z-man
A non-sunroof car has a stiffer chassis,
A non-sunroof car has a stiffer chassis,
I have heard from several sources that the sunroof car's roof is reinforced to the point that it is actually stiffer than the non-sunroof car, if this statement is true, than your's cannot be true. Not a big difference I'm sure, and the non-sunroof car is still plenty strong, but the main difference is weight and the location of that weight.
If one were to end up on one's roof, OTOH, that extra reinforcement might be a good thing.
[hijack]What happens when I show up at tech next week with the snow tires still on the car? [/hijack]
#28
Originally posted by Dave
This is the statement with which I disagree.
I have heard from several sources that the sunroof car's roof is reinforced to the point that it is actually stiffer than the non-sunroof car, if this statement is true, than your's cannot be true. Not a big difference I'm sure, and the non-sunroof car is still plenty strong, but the main difference is weight and the location of that weight.
If one were to end up on one's roof, OTOH, that extra reinforcement might be a good thing.
This is the statement with which I disagree.
I have heard from several sources that the sunroof car's roof is reinforced to the point that it is actually stiffer than the non-sunroof car, if this statement is true, than your's cannot be true. Not a big difference I'm sure, and the non-sunroof car is still plenty strong, but the main difference is weight and the location of that weight.
If one were to end up on one's roof, OTOH, that extra reinforcement might be a good thing.
#29
Originally posted by Dave
[hijack]What happens when I show up at tech next week with the snow tires still on the car? [/hijack]
[hijack]What happens when I show up at tech next week with the snow tires still on the car? [/hijack]
Just throw one or two of your 'track' tires in the hatch and we'll check it out that way.
As for the sunroof debate: ok, you win. But I think that if you were to turbo an n/a, you're really better off with a non-sunroof car! Especially if you use NOS as well! hehe....
Let the hijacking continue....
-Z-man.
#30
Another reason people like sunroof delete cars for the track is that they have more headroom for tall drivers with a helmet on.
As for chassis rigidity, having had a close encounter with a falling tree branch thicker across than my thigh and longer than my 83 944, I agree with Dave that the sunroof cars have an extremely stiff upper chassis. Had it not been that way, neither myself nor my passenger would have survived this incident.
As for chassis rigidity, having had a close encounter with a falling tree branch thicker across than my thigh and longer than my 83 944, I agree with Dave that the sunroof cars have an extremely stiff upper chassis. Had it not been that way, neither myself nor my passenger would have survived this incident.