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Old 03-19-2004 | 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Legoland951
The sunroof is pretty useless in my opinion (only useful for breaking). They should have made a roof that slides back automatically.
Hey, don't the 928's have that type of sunroof?
Old 03-19-2004 | 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Fuzzbeaner
Also does anyone have an actual verified figure for stock '77 924 coupe weight? I've gotton anything from 2350 to 2650.
I should know this, because I used to have one. I always went by this table, but I don't know how valid it is:

http://www.connact.com/~kgross/FAQ/944faq02.html

Also, I just found this page, which looks like it came directly from the owner's manual:

http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/derrickd99/924spec.htm

So I'm guessing it's either 2344 lbs or 2623 lbs.
Old 03-19-2004 | 02:11 AM
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It's 2344 lbs, the 2623 lb figure is for A/C equiped late model cars, which had a heavier transmission and more electrical crap. 77-79 were the lightest 924s, 79 being preferable because of the 5 speed and the light weight.
Old 03-19-2004 | 03:00 AM
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You can remove 'em and drive around with an open top - the space is huge! I do it all the time - I love the thing!
Old 03-19-2004 | 04:31 AM
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no head aches from trying to fix the power sunroof?!hahahah and what everyone else said
Old 03-19-2004 | 05:03 AM
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Nope. Works fine. No leaks either. Must be in everyone's head.
Old 03-19-2004 | 05:13 AM
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Old 03-19-2004 | 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Cass944
would'nt the car be lighter because you could just take the top off?

or is there some rule saying you have to fahe a roof on your car when racing?
I could do that, but the aero drag would be way too much. I'd get eaten alive at the end of the 130 mhp straight at TWS.
Old 03-19-2004 | 09:12 AM
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The quoted weights on those pages are always alittle off. It quotes my 83 as weighing 2675. In stock trim it weighed around 2800lbs. After a good deal of work, AC Delete, battery, exhaust, etc, I got it down to 2600.
Old 03-19-2004 | 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by iloveporsches
Go manual. It's better.

Manual steering: no stupid leaking PS pumps/lines, and no busted pumps.
Manual roof: no stripped gears, no bad wiring, no misalignment. Just lift it with your damn hand.
I'm converting a lot of stuff in my car to manual, but now that I have a Redline roll bar, with padding on it there is no way I could operate the manual latch on a manual sunroof. So that is one thing that will stay power in my car .
Old 03-19-2004 | 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by iloveporsches
In any of the SCCA races with Boxsters, they run with hardtops.
Do you mean the flimsy fiberglass hardtop? If so, that really doesn't offer any extra protection to the driver in the event of a roll-over.

Dave: you disagree with my original statement, but consider this: a roof without a sunroof is as stiff without the reinforcements as a roof is with a sunroof + reinforcements. Therefore, you have a chassis that is as stiff without the extra weight, so stiffness is still a factor, IMHO.

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Old 03-19-2004 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Z-man
A non-sunroof car has a stiffer chassis,
This is the statement with which I disagree.
I have heard from several sources that the sunroof car's roof is reinforced to the point that it is actually stiffer than the non-sunroof car, if this statement is true, than your's cannot be true. Not a big difference I'm sure, and the non-sunroof car is still plenty strong, but the main difference is weight and the location of that weight.
If one were to end up on one's roof, OTOH, that extra reinforcement might be a good thing.

[hijack]What happens when I show up at tech next week with the snow tires still on the car? [/hijack]
Old 03-19-2004 | 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Dave
This is the statement with which I disagree.
I have heard from several sources that the sunroof car's roof is reinforced to the point that it is actually stiffer than the non-sunroof car, if this statement is true, than your's cannot be true. Not a big difference I'm sure, and the non-sunroof car is still plenty strong, but the main difference is weight and the location of that weight.
If one were to end up on one's roof, OTOH, that extra reinforcement might be a good thing.
I once read this same comment from someone who worked for Porsche back in the 80's and now preps 944's for racing over in the Netherlands (? I think ?). I can't remember his name, I'll have to see if I can find that again and post the link. (not that that really proves anything, we would have to see quantitative testing results to prove it either way I guess. This will end up being as great of a debate as "less filling" verses "tastes great". )
Old 03-19-2004 | 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Dave
[hijack]What happens when I show up at tech next week with the snow tires still on the car? [/hijack]
I guess then you'll be running with snows at Lime rock!

Just throw one or two of your 'track' tires in the hatch and we'll check it out that way.

As for the sunroof debate: ok, you win. But I think that if you were to turbo an n/a, you're really better off with a non-sunroof car! Especially if you use NOS as well! hehe....

Let the hijacking continue....

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Old 03-19-2004 | 11:03 AM
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Another reason people like sunroof delete cars for the track is that they have more headroom for tall drivers with a helmet on.

As for chassis rigidity, having had a close encounter with a falling tree branch thicker across than my thigh and longer than my 83 944, I agree with Dave that the sunroof cars have an extremely stiff upper chassis. Had it not been that way, neither myself nor my passenger would have survived this incident.
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