Help removing tie rods from steering rack
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Can any one give me some hints as to how to remove the tie rods from the ends of a power steering rack with damaging the rack itself? Here's a picture of what I'm talking about:
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Try as I might, I can't get these things to budge. I'm holding the rack with a wrench at both ends to avoid damaging the pinion gear, but the spacing is so far apart that it's hard to apply much pressure. Plus face on the tie rod nuts is so small that its hard to keep the wrench on.
Anybody come up with a clever way to break these free?
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Try as I might, I can't get these things to budge. I'm holding the rack with a wrench at both ends to avoid damaging the pinion gear, but the spacing is so far apart that it's hard to apply much pressure. Plus face on the tie rod nuts is so small that its hard to keep the wrench on.
Anybody come up with a clever way to break these free?
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You may need a bit more than a vise. Sometimes shops put glue in there, and the only way to get the assembly loose is using a blow torch to heat it up and melt the glue.
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My low tech method --- Used an 8"ish pipe wrench on the tie rod nuts while standing on the rack. Using a vice to hold the body of the rack unit is probably better than standing on it I guess. The pipe wrench mars the tie rod end nuts a little, but there doesnt seem to be anything that the marred edges can hurt. I used the pipe wrench to reinstall the tie rod ends when I got the rack rebuilt. The manufacturer of the rack doesnt suggest putting twisting force against the internals of the rack to get the tie rod ends off but at the shop I worked at they always used inner tie rod sockets to break things loose which is exactly what I did on the ground. Try this at your own risk
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I just pull them with the rack still on the car. Thats the best "vice" you can get. The large wrench with a even larger cheater bar works for me. They come lose all at once so watch your knuckles.
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I have done it with a vice and on the car. I had a real hard time getting the vice to hold it. On the car is the best. I think it takes a 1 1/4 wrench which might also be a 30mm.
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Originally posted by Legoland951
There is no mechanical task so great that brute force and ignorance cannot overcome. If brute force does not work, apply more ignorance. Then increase both in equal quantity until task is done or project is destroyed
There is no mechanical task so great that brute force and ignorance cannot overcome. If brute force does not work, apply more ignorance. Then increase both in equal quantity until task is done or project is destroyed
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Thanks for the ideas, guys. I'll take another wack at it (maybe literally) in the next day or two.
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Make sure you chisel out that peened down area.. that smashed bit in the groove. And when re-installing them, make sure you re-peen the ring into that groove, thats what keeps the tie rod from coming un-done.
I just did this a few weeks ago while on the car.. Not too bad of a job.
I just did this a few weeks ago while on the car.. Not too bad of a job.