Clear lenses now ready
As above, priced per pair.
02-19-2004, 09:57 PM
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Ok, If they are the ones Joakim is selling, then I know how they were made, though not sure exactly on the resin formulation.
DVC, probably the easiest way to glue on is with some 90 minute set clear epoxy. After sawing off the old lens, clean up the mating edges with some sandpaper laying on a flat surface. Spray the inside white plastic with some chrome spray paint. Clean up and apply the epoxy. Hold everything together with 3 rubber bands for a day until cured. You want the 90 minute epoxy rather than fast 5 minute because it takes awhile to get things applied, aligned and the rubber bands on right. Well, that is how I did mine and they turned out fine and with a good amber bulb in them are actually better than the OEM as far as light output. We shall see how they stand up to UV attack after a couple years.
DVC, probably the easiest way to glue on is with some 90 minute set clear epoxy. After sawing off the old lens, clean up the mating edges with some sandpaper laying on a flat surface. Spray the inside white plastic with some chrome spray paint. Clean up and apply the epoxy. Hold everything together with 3 rubber bands for a day until cured. You want the 90 minute epoxy rather than fast 5 minute because it takes awhile to get things applied, aligned and the rubber bands on right. Well, that is how I did mine and they turned out fine and with a good amber bulb in them are actually better than the OEM as far as light output. We shall see how they stand up to UV attack after a couple years.
02-19-2004, 11:34 PM
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I did mine just like Ice describes. Before I sprayed the chrome paint, I taped off the outside edge around the light where the epoxy would be so I didn't have to go back and sand again. You cannot tell they are not factory. They turned out awesome.
02-20-2004, 02:23 AM
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Hey guys...I can't wait to get some of these...but Skip, are the rear lenses available? Am I issing something? Do the fronts work on the back, or do you just not make them? Thanks
02-20-2004, 01:17 PM
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I believe there may be a US/DOT legal issue with the rear lenses. If anyone here knows the details, maybe they could fill you in. There is much litigation in the automotive press right now (APC and others) regarding the improper modification of rear lenses. I'm not sure this is a game we want to play in unless there is some guarantee the lenses meet all requirements. The "for off-road use only" statement does not carry you too far these days.
That said, Joakim does offer the rear sidemarker lenses - and, will apparently be offering a DIY kit for the rear tail lights in the future. I believe there was another lister here working on the rear lenses as well - was very recent.
Good Luck!
That said, Joakim does offer the rear sidemarker lenses - and, will apparently be offering a DIY kit for the rear tail lights in the future. I believe there was another lister here working on the rear lenses as well - was very recent.
Good Luck!
02-20-2004, 02:21 PM
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Skip,
The litigation issue with APC and others is that their replacement lenses were never DOT certified. Not specifically that they would have failed certification if they had tried, but that they never bothered. Had they tried to certify they would have failed anyway in at least one area, the proper colored reflector within the lens or the lens color itself when the bulb is off. For example take the clear DOT front blinker/marker lenses on newer cars. If you look at them the reflector is amber colored so it will shine amber if the sun or another car's headlights hit it.
Joakim's clear lenses also fail on both counts. Though I doubt NHTSA is going to sue them over such a small volume. If you guys get big enough and **** off someone at NHTSA they could probably take a run at you.
The litigation issue with APC and others is that their replacement lenses were never DOT certified. Not specifically that they would have failed certification if they had tried, but that they never bothered. Had they tried to certify they would have failed anyway in at least one area, the proper colored reflector within the lens or the lens color itself when the bulb is off. For example take the clear DOT front blinker/marker lenses on newer cars. If you look at them the reflector is amber colored so it will shine amber if the sun or another car's headlights hit it.
Joakim's clear lenses also fail on both counts. Though I doubt NHTSA is going to sue them over such a small volume. If you guys get big enough and **** off someone at NHTSA they could probably take a run at you.