Brake Pads: Who Do You Like?
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I've been using the Hawk HP+ for over a year now and I love them. They are a little dirty and noisy but that is a small price to pay for the braking power. If you only drve on the street, maybe try the normal Hawk HP.
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Originally posted by Turbo_Ed
I've been using the Hawk HP+ for over a year now and I love them. They are a little dirty and noisy but that is a small price to pay for the braking power. If you only drve on the street, maybe try the normal Hawk HP.
I've been using the Hawk HP+ for over a year now and I love them. They are a little dirty and noisy but that is a small price to pay for the braking power. If you only drve on the street, maybe try the normal Hawk HP.
Luis, that's seems like a lot for those parts...
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I'm probably biased, but I like Porterfields for the track. My favorite all around pads are Ferodo. I figure high prices for a good track pad are not a big deal when compared to the performance and longevity.
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I have to concur with the Hawk HP Plus recommendation. Been rallying on these for five years. Amazing performance - okay dust and not too noisy. They are great for street because they are effective from 0-800 degrees - meaning they have bite whether cold or hot. They won't stand up to track use - there are lots of great racing pads - but for street - auto-x or other such application - they are awesome.
I'd be interested to know why some folks don't like them.
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I'd be interested to know why some folks don't like them.
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MPW, can you tell me why you don't like the HAWK pads?
MPW, can you tell me why you don't like the HAWK pads?
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I'm surprised none have mentioned the Metal Master... while it's not for all, it is a very-low dust/squeal pad for street/sport use. It's been my favorite street pad compared to Pagid/Jurid/Textar.
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Skip: what's your opinion on Ferodo Street pads? I've had Metal Masters on 2 cars and didn't care for them w/ either. I really like the Ferodos for street and stock category auto-cross, they're just a bit dirty, but quiet. And, similar to Matt above, I've had good luck w/ Porterfields for harder use (The R4 is much better IMO than the R4S).
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I think Frodo was pretty cute for such a small guy. The hairy feet are a big turn-off, but I learned to look past that.
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There are many pads out there better than the MM's depending on what your criteria may be. But, at ~$35 per axle they are good quality, low-dust, low-squeal pads... bang-for-buckage factor very high.
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There are many pads out there better than the MM's depending on what your criteria may be. But, at ~$35 per axle they are good quality, low-dust, low-squeal pads... bang-for-buckage factor very high.
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I've had a set of Endless CCM pads in my car for four years, including a handful of track days. They are indeed endless.
Not sure if they still make them, but anything from Endless is worth a look.
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Not sure if they still make them, but anything from Endless is worth a look.
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Originally posted by mpw
I've only used the HPS pads as a street pad, and this is in a 3700 lb. S4, so in a 2800 lb. 944 it might be totally different. However, that they have 0 bite is my biggest complaint. The just don't seem to want to stop the car. I know it's not the brakes, because I've use Pagid Orange and Cobalt VR pads on the track with excellent results. The other problem is that they rust, badly. I've never seen a stream of rust on my wheels like I have with the Hawks. It's also very difficult to clean, as it does not want to come off. After is rains, I can expect to see some nice red streaks bonded to the surface of my wheels. I don't get this with the other pads I've run, whether the stock Audi pads (Porterfield), or the Pagids or Cobalts. The HPS aren't even that cheap, so I find nothing redeeming about them. Like I said though, this is in a car that is considerably heavier than a 944, so YMMV.
I've only used the HPS pads as a street pad, and this is in a 3700 lb. S4, so in a 2800 lb. 944 it might be totally different. However, that they have 0 bite is my biggest complaint. The just don't seem to want to stop the car. I know it's not the brakes, because I've use Pagid Orange and Cobalt VR pads on the track with excellent results. The other problem is that they rust, badly. I've never seen a stream of rust on my wheels like I have with the Hawks. It's also very difficult to clean, as it does not want to come off. After is rains, I can expect to see some nice red streaks bonded to the surface of my wheels. I don't get this with the other pads I've run, whether the stock Audi pads (Porterfield), or the Pagids or Cobalts. The HPS aren't even that cheap, so I find nothing redeeming about them. Like I said though, this is in a car that is considerably heavier than a 944, so YMMV.
At 3700 lbs, the S4 is never going to find a nice street pad with low dusting. Maybe Axis Ultimates but probably not.
The Pagid Orange is my track pad. Awesome, but $$$$. I have heard nice things about the VR's too. Andie is a nice guy at Cobalt.
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At 3700 lbs, the S4 is never going to find a nice street pad with low dusting. Maybe Axis Ultimates but probably not.
At 3700 lbs, the S4 is never going to find a nice street pad with low dusting. Maybe Axis Ultimates but probably not.
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I have heard in the past that the Hawk pads create a very toxic dust that accelerates the degredation of the rotors. No experience personally, but enough reason for me to consider staying away from them.
Unless I hear otherwise of course...
Unless I hear otherwise of course...
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I will have to agree with Matt on this one (shocking), I like Porterfields for the track. My favorite pads for all around use are Ferodo. I must admit, I am really becoming a big fan of the Porterfields on the street too! Best wishes - Jay Gratton