keith

97s aren't street pads.

Turbo_Ed

I've been using the Hawk HP+ for over a year now and I love them. They are a little dirty and noisy but that is a small price to pay for the braking power. If you only drve on the street, maybe try the normal Hawk HP.

jason952

As said before, either Hawk HPS or HP+, they are awesome, and cheap at vertex.

Luis, that's seems like a lot for those parts...

Matt Romanowski

I'm probably biased, but I like Porterfields for the track. My favorite all around pads are Ferodo. I figure high prices for a good track pad are not a big deal when compared to the performance and longevity.

Matt

Rally Guy

I have to concur with the Hawk HP Plus recommendation. Been rallying on these for five years. Amazing performance - okay dust and not too noisy. They are great for street because they are effective from 0-800 degrees - meaning they have bite whether cold or hot. They won't stand up to track use - there are lots of great racing pads - but for street - auto-x or other such application - they are awesome.

I'd be interested to know why some folks don't like them.

RK

mpw

I've only used the HPS pads as a street pad, and this is in a 3700 lb. S4, so in a 2800 lb. 944 it might be totally different. However, that they have 0 bite is my biggest complaint. The just don't seem to want to stop the car. I know it's not the brakes, because I've use Pagid Orange and Cobalt VR pads on the track with excellent results. The other problem is that they rust, badly. I've never seen a stream of rust on my wheels like I have with the Hawks. It's also very difficult to clean, as it does not want to come off. After is rains, I can expect to see some nice red streaks bonded to the surface of my wheels. I don't get this with the other pads I've run, whether the stock Audi pads (Porterfield), or the Pagids or Cobalts. The HPS aren't even that cheap, so I find nothing redeeming about them. Like I said though, this is in a car that is considerably heavier than a 944, so YMMV.

Skip

I'm surprised none have mentioned the Metal Master... while it's not for all, it is a very-low dust/squeal pad for street/sport use. It's been my favorite street pad compared to Pagid/Jurid/Textar.

jason952

MM are the best if low dust is a priority, they also have great pedal feel, but Hawk edges them, to me

jim944s2

Skip: what's your opinion on Ferodo Street pads? I've had Metal Masters on 2 cars and didn't care for them w/ either. I really like the Ferodos for street and stock category auto-cross, they're just a bit dirty, but quiet. And, similar to Matt above, I've had good luck w/ Porterfields for harder use (The R4 is much better IMO than the R4S).

Skip

I think Frodo was pretty cute for such a small guy. The hairy feet are a big turn-off, but I learned to look past that.

Oh, Ferodo... uh, yeah. Sorry, no experience with them

There are many pads out there better than the MM's depending on what your criteria may be. But, at ~$35 per axle they are good quality, low-dust, low-squeal pads... bang-for-buckage factor very high.

gnosis

I've had a set of Endless CCM pads in my car for four years, including a handful of track days. They are indeed endless.

Not sure if they still make them, but anything from Endless is worth a look.

Clayton

eclou

There is a huge difference between the HPS and the HP + pad. The HPS is my "keep the wheels clean at all costs" pad on my M3. The stock Jurids work better for braking. I run the HP + on the 951 and on my old 996. The HP + has about as nice crisp intial bite as a 200lb Rottweiler.

At 3700 lbs, the S4 is never going to find a nice street pad with low dusting. Maybe Axis Ultimates but probably not.

The Pagid Orange is my track pad. Awesome, but $$$$. I have heard nice things about the VR's too. Andie is a nice guy at Cobalt.

mpw

It's not so much that it dusts that bothers me, but that the dust seems to rust so easily. I don't know if Hawk uses more ferrous material in their pads than other manufacturers, but there's a difference.

OriginalSterm

I have heard in the past that the Hawk pads create a very toxic dust that accelerates the degredation of the rotors. No experience personally, but enough reason for me to consider staying away from them.

Unless I hear otherwise of course...

Jay Gratton

I will have to agree with Matt on this one (shocking), I like Porterfields for the track. My favorite pads for all around use are Ferodo. I must admit, I am really becoming a big fan of the Porterfields on the street too! Best wishes - Jay Gratton