Really? Anderson and his wife currently drive an '83 944 they bought new new - he's always joking how if she breaks the windshield that'll total it. He, like Pete Zimmerman, don't think 944s make any sort of financial sense to run, but that's not saying they don't like them. Heck, any old car worth buying is probably too rare or valuable to risk driving.

Emanuel

 

I don't see how a 944 "makes no financial sense to run."

No one makes the same statement about, for example, a new 996. But over a few years, the 996 will cost tens of thousands of dollars in depreciation. Meanwhile the 944 value will at least steady. Granted, you won't make much money on resale, but you won't lose a lot of money either (well...other than the bottomless pit of maintenance ).

From a certain point of view, new Porsches make a lot less financial sense than the older ones.

 

is this the excellence with the new rsr?

 

Meh, I don't really care what other people have to say about how my car drives. Besides, I still prefer driving the 944 to the 911...

BB.

 

Karl Ludvigsen's number 7 pick was the '65-'69 912, again proving what a perceptive person is the author of everyones favorite 19 pound book 'Porsche, Excellence was Expected'

 

I wondered how long it would take you to chime in with that.

 

yeah, i guess 912 owners are a lot like 944 owners - never get any recognition.

ya know i saw a 912 soft window targa at my friend's shop sitting for a while, asked if it was for sale, but alas, owner knew what she had!

 

i'm in the "i don't really care any more about my 944's status" crowd. i gave up on that fight a long time ago. i just like to drive my car now and keep it looking good enough for me to be prowd of. and yes, i will buy a 911 when the time is right, but plan on keeping the 944 too.

 

I agree 100%. I'd rather have people wonder why I have that stupid grin while I'm driving the '44.

 

WOW! Porsche constructed a total of 2562 912 Targas, less than 8 percent of all 912s. in 67 virtually all targas were soft windows. in 68 less than half. in 69, virually all targas were hard window targas.. only about 15 1969 soft windows are known to exist today, by somone who actually has a 69 soft window and has been searching to find how many exist today (im sure there are more.. but a 69 swt is the rarest of all 912s, followed by the sunroof coupe).

my guess is that around 1000 soft windows produced between 67-69.. and many less are around today. a good percentage have been converted to hard window targas too.



youre right.. but its starting to turn believe it or not. a 912 in great condition will go for around 10k-12k these days (compared to 5-6k 5 years ago). concourse will go for around 20. its getting to the point where the young kids lookin for a cool vintage porsche they can actually afford, will not be able to afford these cars anymore. one reason is the 912 registry. the other reason is that they were had for cheep, neglected, bastardised with fender flares, and body kits for so long, fewer and fewer good 912s are available these days. just like the 356 circa 1984.. these cars are starting to gain value each year, wit prices rising with each sale. the bargan find 912 era is dead. it certainly is a buyers market.

fear not fellow four bangers... youre cars will get there too. keep the faith!! stop modifying your stock & all original 944s & 951s.. the ones with out mods and are original stock condition immaculate cars are the ones that will be worth the dough, as they are the ones that are rare. get a 944 registry going in full speed and gain support outside of rennlist.. a closed community is a worthless community. (what i mean is you need to get 944s from everywhere to take notice, not just rennlisters).

soon people will go for their dream cars they wanted when they were kids. and soon people will find what bargans these 944s really are at their current rates.

i predict... 5-10 years, the 914 will hit the same place we are today in the 912 world. 15-20, the 944 will have its day. same goes for the 928.


keep the faith, and **** what others say and dont say. its your little secret... if no one else sees the value in them, then you can take advantage of the low respect (low prices), and you can love them for what they are.

nothing else matter than what you guys really think though. so just drive and enjoy them out of your own love for the nine double quatro.

KEEP THE FAITH!


Harry

 

Pete.. thats all that matters! EXACTLY what i was just saying!

 

https://www.pca.org/

The car on the main page might be of interest to those of you that are upset that nobody cares about the 944.

 

I drove an early E taga once and really... it was a piece of sht. I mean flexible flyer. The 944 chassis is so much better than the torsion bar 911, the discussion is honestly a joke. I have also driven a couple of heavily modified 930's at Lime Rock, and let me tell you that with stock suspension and modded engine, the front end lightens up so much that they are scary - you can't turn the fking things, man. I can run 4 seconds faster in a stock 951 than a 400 HP (claimed until it heat soaks and makes 150 hp) 930 on the same day. They are old. OLD.
Now if you put $63595394917498.37 worth of suspension into them, then maybe you might come within a few seconds of something like a 968 turbo RS, but it would be difficult. All Porsche track guys who have run both know this, it is no big secret.
I'll tell you, though , those 930's sound awesome when you fly by them in the turns.
That article has to be talking about which is more fun to drive, so I guess I am missing the point - I guess the torsion bar 911's are more fun, because everytime I drive one, I am invariably laughing my *** off - especially at the track.





Oh yeah, 964's + have one foot out of Fred Flintstone's chassis garage, and the new water coolers are fking fast - just so noone thinks I am jaded.

 

I read on 968.net that the April issue of Excellence, in the article about the Top 10 Driver's Porsches, a few of the great drivers mention the 968CS as one of the better handling Porsche (top ten) of all the time.

Being the 968CS a water cooled, and being the 968 the final evolution of the 944 line, I suppose this can be of some interest for you.

This is the link to the thread:

http://65.61.16.109/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7090

Ugo

 

ha ha

and then there are those who are quick to attack the 911. i'm sure we all came out of the box knowing everything, thereby anyone who likes 911s must be an idiot. you may have more driving experience than someone else who happens to own a 911, but that doesnt give you the right to assume the 911s are worse. perhaps one day, i'll have to go buy one just to blast your ignorance on the track. 'till then, dwell in your ignorance, 'special' tool bag, and then when it finally happens, you can shut your prejudiced hole once and for all.

-Michael-