Uh-oh...whats wrong now...
12-12-2003, 03:16 PM
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Uh-oh...whats wrong now...
got in the car a few minutes ago to start it up and take it for a drive, and I stepped on the clutch pedal and it just sort fell to the bottom...after barely tapping it...and I had to use my foot to bring it back up again...what does this mean? What is wrong here?
12-12-2003, 03:25 PM
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Check the resevoir and hoses for leaks first. Refill, bleed if no leaks are found. If it continues, clutch master and slave cylinders are needed.
12-12-2003, 03:26 PM
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one of your clutch cylinders is leaking for sure. (probably the slave)
I had the same problem - only if it happens to you UP hill, you may not be able to pull it back up with your foot and continue on your way.
Get it bled asap and possibly replaced!!
I had the same problem - only if it happens to you UP hill, you may not be able to pull it back up with your foot and continue on your way.
Get it bled asap and possibly replaced!!
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12-12-2003, 03:31 PM
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There is a 1.5" - 2.0" diameter rubber plug that you access from underneath the driver's side of the car, on the bellhousin, directly underneath the clutch slave cylinder.
If you have this plug installed, remove it. If you see brake fluid come out, it's because the slave cylinder has failed.
If you don't have the plug, there should be brake fluid under the car in that location.
If no fluid comes out, then I vote for there being air in the line.
If you have this plug installed, remove it. If you see brake fluid come out, it's because the slave cylinder has failed.
If you don't have the plug, there should be brake fluid under the car in that location.
If no fluid comes out, then I vote for there being air in the line.
12-12-2003, 03:42 PM
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bloodraven.....i just recently had this problem....it is more than likely air in the line....it was bled and fixed in like 2 minutes......nothing to really worry about.
12-12-2003, 03:55 PM
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Okay, I have bled a clutch before, but not on one of these. Anythign different I have to do? Is there clutch fluid involved or just the brake fluid? Since it runs off of brake fluid, while I have to bleed the brakes as well? Sorry if I sound stupid...heh...
12-12-2003, 04:08 PM
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Clarks-garage.com has two procedures for the process. You only have to worry about the break fluid. I do not believe you shall have to bleed the brakes as generally when bleeding the hydraulics as whole you start with the brakes and bleed the clutch last. Supposedly a pressure bleeder helps out a great deal. Good luck 
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12-12-2003, 04:19 PM
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I'm having the same problem right now. The reservoir was very low, so there is definitely air in the lines.
I have been bleeding them by myself for about an hour now, but now, no fluid will come out of the bleeder valve at all, just air. The reservoir is full.
Is it ok to bleed the line by depressing the back of the slave cylinder, inside the place the plug comes off? It definitely move air and fluid through the cylinder when I push it, but I'm wondering if this is harmful or even helpful.
Any ideas why I no longer get fluid through?
I have been bleeding them by myself for about an hour now, but now, no fluid will come out of the bleeder valve at all, just air. The reservoir is full.
Is it ok to bleed the line by depressing the back of the slave cylinder, inside the place the plug comes off? It definitely move air and fluid through the cylinder when I push it, but I'm wondering if this is harmful or even helpful.
Any ideas why I no longer get fluid through?
12-12-2003, 04:22 PM
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The clutch in a 944 can be a real challenge to bleed if you got air into the system. But this has been covered a million times in Rennlist threads so just do an archive search, if the search function still works. There was a thread a week or two ago that covered it.
How cold is it in your area right now? If you have seals that are marginal and on the way out a cold snap will stiffen the rubber enough to make them leak.
How cold is it in your area right now? If you have seals that are marginal and on the way out a cold snap will stiffen the rubber enough to make them leak.
12-12-2003, 04:30 PM
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I've poured through the clutch bleed threads and found plently on the procedure, but I see no one having a problem with not getting any fluid through the bleeder at all. I can pump it 100 times without any fluid coming through at all.
If the master or slave cylinder is out, could it prevent fluid from coming through during a bleeding procedure.
It's been 15-30 degrees F here the last few days.
Where are the seals that might be going out? Within the cyinders, at the reservoir, ....?
If the master or slave cylinder is out, could it prevent fluid from coming through during a bleeding procedure.
It's been 15-30 degrees F here the last few days.
Where are the seals that might be going out? Within the cyinders, at the reservoir, ....?
12-12-2003, 04:50 PM
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Yeah, 15*F could do it. The seals I'm talking about are on the pistons in the cylinders, master and slave.
I've never run into your problem with no fluid running through if you have plenty of fluid in the reservoir. Maybe there is a clog in the reservoir? Guess I would start by taking that off and checking it out.
I've never run into your problem with no fluid running through if you have plenty of fluid in the reservoir. Maybe there is a clog in the reservoir? Guess I would start by taking that off and checking it out.