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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 12:38 AM
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Zims has the top pad for about $25. And I suppose that retiming the cams shouldn't be much harder than a DOHC Kawasaki, but more expensive if you do it wrong.

I didn't really think about it much and assumed that the chain disapearred dowm towards the crank, not just going around the cams only, it does make sense...DOH...

Now degreeing the cams may a different story.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Dave
Add "water pump" to this list!
Sorry about that.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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Did anyone just hear a gulp?

The Ss are nice cars, but you really have to get the tensioner and belts attended to right away. More than a few people have lost their cars within a week or two of buying them.

Used S heads are in short supply.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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Nice Pics....Not to get off topic on this thread here but does anyone know how man 944S cars were produced in '87-'88 and how many were brought to the states?
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/P...e%20and%20Year

Not detailed, but interesting.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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According to "Original Porsche 924/944/968" :

1987
2635 ROW, 3127 US/CAN, 13 airbag US, 2 Sport US

1988
1305 ROW, 5561 US, 188 Canada'

I wonder how many are left in their original form?

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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I have one of those 188 944S's that were "Canadian", built in 1988.

Still pretty original.

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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What was the sport model for the US?
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:28 AM
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It doesn't elaborate but the power, torque and compression ratio numbers were exactly the same as a stock S.

It does mention a club sport version was available, typical luxury equipment deletions. It could be that.

Anyone know for sure?

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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I've had a few self proclaimed 944 Guru's tell my my car is a sport model since it has the sport suspension, LSD, 16" wheels with wider rims in the back, upgraded sway bars and raised steering hub. I say "self proclaimed Guru's" since I don't necessarily belive them. It does not have sport seats, I would assume any sport package would have them, I may be wrong.
If my car wasn't in storage I would post a pic of the window sticker.

Hope this helps?

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Just found this - so glad to know I can inspect the pads by pulling the cam cover....and replacing the tensioner pads is not difficult.....wonderful news.........


TIA,

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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 03:27 PM
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Next Mon & Tue will be warm & rainy = perfect days for checking cam chain tensioner & pads as shop will be warm enough to work in.

944 can rest for a week just to be super safe.......

But one more question before next week: many say to replace the tensioner itself if car is high mileage. Springs of this type/usage change little. Pads, no question - a wear item. Thinking of sticking with original tensioner unless someone has some good arguments for doing otherwise. Funds are tight as I'm putting bucks into repainting my '76 914 and doing a top-end rebuild on its engine........

Thanks to all for input.

GN

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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 09:34 AM
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I do not routinely replace the tensioner body unless there is damage. In fact, when budget is a concern, the top pad only can be replaced since the bottom pad is on the drive side of the chain and is essentially straight, it receives much less wear than the top pad.
Be careful with the oil supply tube, replace the crush seals, torque the fasteners correctly and consider using Porsche seals for the cam cover as the aftermarket versions do not seal as well.
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 09:39 AM
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Here is what the aftermath of tensioner guide rail failure looks like.

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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 10:20 AM
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Gage -

My thinking exactly. But I can do both pads - will check for wear before ordering. Check on oil supply tube. Crush washers can usually be re-softened/annealed by boiling them in water then allowing to cool slowly - ever do this? Can I get crush washers from Pelican? Interesting that German guy in video simply re-used the original crush washers - would have thought he would have suggested new. I'm a torque-correct freak, so no problem there. Check on original Porsche seal for cam cover.

Really appreciate all the detail. & wisdom.

GN

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I do not routinely replace the tensioner body unless there is damage. In fact, when budget is a concern, the top pad only can be replaced since the bottom pad is on the drive side of the chain and is essentially straight, it receives much less wear than the top pad.
Be careful with the oil supply tube, replace the crush seals, torque the fasteners correctly and consider using Porsche seals for the cam cover as the aftermarket versions do not seal as well.
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