Porsche 930 questions
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Porsche 930 questions
Hey guys, I'm looking into buying a 930! What year would be the cheapest to buy it? And why do people want like 60,000 for one? It blows my mind. Well I'm looking for one that is 15-25 thousand. Any ideas. I'd like it to be modded because stock seams to be so much more money! (Understandable)
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Unfortunately for you, The $15-20k era for early Turbos came to an end around '03 -'04. Early Turbo Carreras and 930 Turbos have until recently been undervalued and have always lagged behind the "Early S" market and lately the '65-'66 2 liter 911 market.
I think I speak for this crowd that we are glad that these winged monsters are finally getting the long overdue recognition and value climb to bring these significant cars back in line with the values of other 911 models.
The only Turbo that I am aware of that recently sold for +/-$20k was a "Sandy" flood victim from N.J..... and I'm not even sure I'd want that Salt water taffy!
Even modified cars with high mileage are now trading in the high 30s to low 40s, just look on ebay and you'll see. For that matter, nice normally aspirated 3.0SC and mid-eighties Carreras are now in the $20k -30k range with G50 Carreras ('87-'89) trading as high as $45k for a low mileage one owner example. Ya' never know though.......you could get lucky !
Best of luck in your search....
I think I speak for this crowd that we are glad that these winged monsters are finally getting the long overdue recognition and value climb to bring these significant cars back in line with the values of other 911 models.
The only Turbo that I am aware of that recently sold for +/-$20k was a "Sandy" flood victim from N.J..... and I'm not even sure I'd want that Salt water taffy!
Even modified cars with high mileage are now trading in the high 30s to low 40s, just look on ebay and you'll see. For that matter, nice normally aspirated 3.0SC and mid-eighties Carreras are now in the $20k -30k range with G50 Carreras ('87-'89) trading as high as $45k for a low mileage one owner example. Ya' never know though.......you could get lucky !
Best of luck in your search....
#3
I agree with The Baron. Turbo values have really taken a jump in the past year. Prior to that, many of our Turbos ended up going back to Europe as the Euro was strong. Now, values have caught up in the US buyers market and you'd need at least $30k for a decent turbo. I sold my highly modded 86 to a friend for $27k earlier this year. The motor was fresh, but the car itself was tired. This is what you might get for your $30k. Cosmetics are easier than mechanicals, but a cheap turbo will end up costing you in the end.
I bought a very nice, low mileage 77 Turbo Carrera a month after I sold my 86 because I missed the way it drove. I wanted to insure it for $55k with Grundy (they're the only collector car insurer licensed here) but they gave me a hard time on the valuation, only offering $40K. Since then, I've tracked values and you hear about sales, but get no concrete values. I use Hagerty's site as they have valuations for our cars and 77 turbos took a big jump in value as of their August report. 20%+ Condition 2, 3 and 4 cars. Condition 1 jumped 30%+!
Buy your turbo now, while you can! Carreras jumped as well and oddly enough, I think it was the WSJ that said to buy a 911 Carrera before it hits $50k.
I bought a very nice, low mileage 77 Turbo Carrera a month after I sold my 86 because I missed the way it drove. I wanted to insure it for $55k with Grundy (they're the only collector car insurer licensed here) but they gave me a hard time on the valuation, only offering $40K. Since then, I've tracked values and you hear about sales, but get no concrete values. I use Hagerty's site as they have valuations for our cars and 77 turbos took a big jump in value as of their August report. 20%+ Condition 2, 3 and 4 cars. Condition 1 jumped 30%+!
Buy your turbo now, while you can! Carreras jumped as well and oddly enough, I think it was the WSJ that said to buy a 911 Carrera before it hits $50k.
#4
I guess the triangle of good-cheap-quick applies here as well - you can pick only two though: If you want a good car and you want to make a quick deal it's not going to be cheap, if you want a cheap & good car it's not happening quickly and if you want a cheap car with a quick deal it's not going to be a good car. Of course there are exceptions to the rule...
These things can get awfully expensive to repair when things go wrong - especially on the engine / transmission side of things. If one expects to buy a say $20k 930 and just drive it...well it might not happen. Buy a good car and pay a little bit more and don't only stare at the price.
It's worthwhile to pay a little more for a good car than pay a lot more to get the wrong (bad) car fixed. It takes money, time and also you can't drive the car while it's being fixed.
These things can get awfully expensive to repair when things go wrong - especially on the engine / transmission side of things. If one expects to buy a say $20k 930 and just drive it...well it might not happen. Buy a good car and pay a little bit more and don't only stare at the price.
It's worthwhile to pay a little more for a good car than pay a lot more to get the wrong (bad) car fixed. It takes money, time and also you can't drive the car while it's being fixed.
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Thank you guys so much. So I want to find a car that's nice, in the 30-35 range? Or is that still classified as the cheap range? I really believe that this car is the sexiest of all Porsches ever, and I've been lusting after one since I was 5! I'm turning 18 soon and I've been saving since I was 10. My dad has a 97 993 twin turbo, and a 79 911 sc (Frankenstein). It all started back when i witnessed this white porsche 930 at the porsche farm as my dad called this guys house because it was full of Porsches, nice and not so nice (split in half) past the point all I know is I need this car.
#6
Holy crap, you're only 17! You can find a 930 in the $30-35k range, but you'll need to get a good PPI and jump on it if it passes. It beat the hell out of my why these cars are jumping so high, but if you want one, you better get it now.
Now, you'll also need to budget money for incidentals and other repairs. If you don't have the money, I would suggest you save more, or perhaps look at a G50 Carrera as those are great cars. They also make better daily drivers.
Now, you'll also need to budget money for incidentals and other repairs. If you don't have the money, I would suggest you save more, or perhaps look at a G50 Carrera as those are great cars. They also make better daily drivers.
#7
Luckily I have been working at a Porsche repair shop in Connecticut, (auto associates) so I've kinda been in the loop of things. The hardest part is finding somebody who wants to sell! I looked on line and found somebody selling one for 27,000 but I'm afraid to jump on it. The only problem is that I don't want it to be junk. Hopefully my coworkers will be able to set me up on a deal since everything a Sold through them!
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The Hemmings 87 looks nice, if it was a newer car. I would be concerned the car has a completly new body kit and is dressed like a 964 Turbo car. The original wheels, bumpers, brackets, rockers, rear lens, side mirrors and several more items are long gone. Not to mention the gauges and steering wheel have been changes as well.
It would raise a red flag if the car was in a serious crash and then built to look like a newer "updated" Turbo.
It would raise a red flag if the car was in a serious crash and then built to look like a newer "updated" Turbo.
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The Hemmings 87 looks nice, if it was a newer car. I would be concerned the car has a completly new body kit and is dressed like a 964 Turbo car. The original wheels, bumpers, brackets, rockers, rear lens, side mirrors and several more items are long gone. Not to mention the gauges and steering wheel have been changes as well.
It would raise a red flag if the car was in a serious crash and then built to look like a newer "updated" Turbo.
It would raise a red flag if the car was in a serious crash and then built to look like a newer "updated" Turbo.
Yeah ....what he said !
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Thank you guys so much. So I want to find a car that's nice, in the 30-35 range? Or is that still classified as the cheap range? I really believe that this car is the sexiest of all Porsches ever, and I've been lusting after one since I was 5! I'm turning 18 soon and I've been saving since I was 10. My dad has a 97 993 twin turbo, and a 79 911 sc (Frankenstein). It all started back when i witnessed this white porsche 930 at the porsche farm as my dad called this guys house because it was full of Porsches, nice and not so nice (split in half) past the point all I know is I need this car.
If this story is for real and this guy (kid) is truly 17 and looking on his own .......... I Like him !
LETS Help him find one ........ with dad's permission of course !
#14
Agree. The kid has style. Best advice i could give is study the cars, know the year-to-year changes of an original 930. Unfortunately (well priced) original cars don't last on the open market so there will be an inherent risk. You have to act quickly and don't hesitate. This is especially true for early 930s. Cars are sold on a world market (Internet) so you're dealing with more buyers than ever before...
Study the blogs, read books/ magazine and educated yourself. Knowledge is power.. The 930 is a special market, value will always be in original unmolested cars. Know what that is...
... good luck
Study the blogs, read books/ magazine and educated yourself. Knowledge is power.. The 930 is a special market, value will always be in original unmolested cars. Know what that is...
... good luck