Innovate LC-1 install
#17
Mark, my expierience with the LC1 was not that great, recalibrations a pain. Innovate has another unit the LM2, prob better, no calibrate??. Also the LC1 O2 sensor failed fast with leaded fuels, even faster than they said. I am currently considering PLX devices AFR -plug n play no calibrate, easy on da money.
#18
^^^^^ lol!
lead gas will cook any o2 sensor!
depending on what fuel and how hard the car is run, that could be from a few hours to a to a few weeks of driving time...
if you left the o2 sensor in and drove on lead fuels, of course it's going to fail, they are not designed for continuous use in a leaded fuel system.
how was the recalibration a pain??? the LC1/LM1 recalibrate every time you turn them on... this is done to give you the most accurate possible afr. turn on the car, let the sensor go though it's heat up and recal cycle..(max 30sec) and then start once you see 20.9 %o2 flash.
any device that doesn't recalibrate will wear over time(yes o2 sensors wear) and your readings will progressively get more and more out of wack!
the nice thing about the Innovate stuff is it uses a standard Bosch 5 wire o2 sensor used on many late model VW/Audi products can can be found through most part stores for under $75-100!
lead gas will cook any o2 sensor!
depending on what fuel and how hard the car is run, that could be from a few hours to a to a few weeks of driving time...
if you left the o2 sensor in and drove on lead fuels, of course it's going to fail, they are not designed for continuous use in a leaded fuel system.
how was the recalibration a pain??? the LC1/LM1 recalibrate every time you turn them on... this is done to give you the most accurate possible afr. turn on the car, let the sensor go though it's heat up and recal cycle..(max 30sec) and then start once you see 20.9 %o2 flash.
any device that doesn't recalibrate will wear over time(yes o2 sensors wear) and your readings will progressively get more and more out of wack!
the nice thing about the Innovate stuff is it uses a standard Bosch 5 wire o2 sensor used on many late model VW/Audi products can can be found through most part stores for under $75-100!
#19
...exactly.
the innovate units are considered the best and most accurate wideband AFR unit you can buy.
when i was researching AFR gauges before buying one i was told to stay away from the others, especially plx because they are not as accurate.
you should recalibrate the LC-1 to the oxygen sensor at least once a month in a turbocharged istallation.
do your own research because anyone can post their opinions regardless of knowledge and experience on a message board.
the innovate units are considered the best and most accurate wideband AFR unit you can buy.
when i was researching AFR gauges before buying one i was told to stay away from the others, especially plx because they are not as accurate.
you should recalibrate the LC-1 to the oxygen sensor at least once a month in a turbocharged istallation.
do your own research because anyone can post their opinions regardless of knowledge and experience on a message board.
#20
18 replies and still going strong since I started this thread. And the sad thing is that I haven't yet taken the time to install the LM-1....still sitting new in the box. I'm convinced that it's probably the best on the market - reasonably priced, accurate, user friendly, good tech support, and apparently long lived. Installation will take a little effort, and I guess I'll have to buy a laptop computer (believe it or not, I don't have one) if I want to monitor and record the data real-time.
Your recommendation of on-board placement of the laptop??? Passenger seat, or just tape it to the top of the intercooler and slam the lid on it?
Your recommendation of on-board placement of the laptop??? Passenger seat, or just tape it to the top of the intercooler and slam the lid on it?
#21
Right on Mark, get the laptop; the LM1 or 2 can do all you want with appropriate sensors. LOL : I ran my LC1 as a watch dog on my cis 3.3 while on track so the O2 sensors were expected to fail and did so quickly on low lead 100. Recalibration of the LC1 required exposing the sensor to fresh air if I had run the engine in recently. Not that big a deal, but extra time to unscrew it, etc. Anyone else had experiences with PLX Devices O2 unit?? Thanks.
#23
Thanks Nathan, that's an option worth considering. My wife's been after me to get a laptop anyway, so I'll probably start there and then move on to the DL-32.