lucroberts

I found one for sale, European Version , Red in black with 62,000 orignal miles and in pristine condition. Clean Carfax showing first title in Texas on 11/1984 and confirms mileage although several Failed Emission Inspections along the way. No info or documenttion on Federalization. The only mod are 3 piece cup style polished wheels and short shifter. Any help of a price range and downside for a Gray market is appreciated.
thanks

Gary R.

IMHO with a good leakdown $25K+..

Blaine Sellie

Unless it is painted Signal Orange....then its 35K....

Love that paint Gary. Sad to see it go.

Blaine

Matt O.

At least 25K. I would say closer to $30-35k. The lack of federlization papers is a downer. Will definitely be something you can use in negotiations. Hard to confirm mileage. But you said pristine so probably close. Good luck!

pdqcarrera

Having been involved in a few gray market vehicles myself, don't trust the mileage without iron clad documentation from delivery - day 1 (before importing to USA and the speedo/odometer conversion). Beyond the typical engine checks of compression & leakdown, be sure to have a very detailed inspection from a reputable shop, as corrosion and stress cracks are common and can hide from untrained eyes. These are expensive to fit. Then brakes, tranny, clutch, turbo, fuel system, etc. can add up to a major service bill rather quickly ... and before you know it you could have had a clean '89 for the same $. Some insurance companies still don't like them, but I've not had any problems with Haggerty Insurance.

Bob S

I've have never had any problems insuring mine.... I might be prejudice, but I agree with Matt as to pricing..... As with all cars it depends alot on the condition of the car.. Mine was an easy decision, bought from original owner, and my wrench had worked on the car for "at least the last 15 years"...Happy with the decision, never found any surprises...

WERK-I

The lack of federalization papers is an inconvenience, but as long as the car was titled in at least one state, you should be good to go......except in maybe in California. When I moved back to Wisconsin from the East coast, the unique RoW VIN, made it somewhat of a pain to get the vehicle registered in this state because the RoW car VIN's are not in the database. It had nothing to with the Federalization papers, it had to do with those VIN's.

Bob S

I'm not sure if it was on this board or one of the others, but someone had posted telephone numbers where you can obtain DOT papers... Do a search it's probably here...I'll check I may have the numbers somewhere..

Bob S

I had saved this awhile ago. Someone posted it on one of the boards and I thought it important to save... Hope it helps those looking for this info... Thanks to the original poster that provided this info.

Contact Info for obtaining Vehicle Importation Records - this is the paperwork concerning the conformance of your grey mkt car to US Standards - very important!
U.S. Department of Transportation
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Enforcement
Office of Vehicle Safety Compliance
Contact Name : Richard Merritt (may find him in directory as Dick Merritt)
Rm 6115, NEF-30
400 7th Street, SW
Washington, DC 20590

202-493-2266
Kathy Rice is his secretary - 202-366-5291
Main Dept is 202-493-5300 - I think it is a menu system

Ask for a copy of the vehicle importation certificate for your car based on the serial number. This document will prove that your car has been brought in line with the safety standards at the time the car was imported.


EPA Compliance document - also called EPA Form 3520-1.
Contact the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Vehicle Compliance Programs Group
U.S. EPA, VPCD (6405J)
401 M Street, S.W.
Washington, DC 20460
Phone 202-564-9271
Fax 202-565-2057
FaxBack Service for requesting document faxes - 202-564-9660
Contact Person : Ethel Harrison - She works on her own schedule. Could take awhile before you get a response.

Gary R.

Well, it will be about 1500 miles closer to you in about a week!