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Old 09-24-2007, 08:09 AM
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What exactly are the drawbacks to a non-U.S. model 930?
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Sometimes, getting insurance on them can be a bit of a hassle, but its workable. Other than that, nothing as long as a butcher didn't do the federalization, some local tire place hasn't set it to U.S. suspension settings, and it passes a competent PPI. I've got an '84 Carrera 3.2 and a 930, both Euros. They've been absolutely great cars so far.

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Besides emissions... what needs to be done?
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Usually, the headlights were changed from H-4s to sealed beam, the parking lights are all amber, the tail and stop light lenses were red versus just the stop lights being red and the tailights being amber, usually has some extra rubber trim and a couple of reflectors in the rear bumber the US variants didn't have, the ride height was about 1/2 to 3/4 inch lower than the federal cars, they had a low-mounted red single fog/rain light under the rear bumper, the speedo (depending on the car's origin) is changed to a miles unit versus kms and that's about all I can think of right now w/o going into the emissions stuff.
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Originally Posted by red9thirty
Besides emissions... what needs to be done?
Not even that. If it has a title, you are pretty much good to go in Ohio and most other States.

My 82 has no Fed paperwork, it was never done, it is emissions exempt and I run a Historic tag in Ohio. A newer 930 probably qualifies for a Collector's car tag .... and emission exempt as well.... call the DMV and find out.

I don't know about 86 and on US spec, but the earlier Euro cars had better fuel management and I think the heads were better too. 300 Euro HP vs 286 US HP ... or was it 282 ?

Euro cars normally had a lower stance as well. .... except mine ..... it's ready for a flood.
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They were also supposed to have square or round bar stock welded into the doors for side impact protection. This was usually done poorly by a low paid beginner mechanic with a MIG welder...
Hopefully not all of them got that.

I think the US catalytic converter cars were rated at 282HP.
The late 80's twin cam BMW M635 was 286HP in euro trim.
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Bought new in London.....LHD, ROW destined but forget where...Porsche dealer in GB was stuck with two Turbos

Imported to US new on MCO......after emission tests, it was returned to Euro form in a sleepy southern town.....never had an issue and it is still on the road down in eastern NC.....

Just do a little legwork....actually a lot of legwork if Sloan has the car...I 've been down that road and he never delivered on three specific Porsches, BUT that was five years ago
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Red, sorry, I think I misunderstood your question. If the car's already here you don't have to do a thing. All of those things I listed were what the "grey market" importers did to "federalize" the car and some of the differences between the euro and US variants. Most of the mods were promptly ditched as soon as possible by the new owners and the cars returned to "euro" spec, unless you were a poor son of a gun that lived in a really punitive smog state like CA.
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Originally Posted by red9thirty
What exactly are the drawbacks to a non-U.S. model 930?
None. More HP and you get cool side markers too!



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