Having problem (intermittent) with mixture..kinda long but need some help
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Having problem (intermittent) with mixture..kinda long but need some help
When I changed out my headers a few months ago, I fried my O2 sensor by heating it cherry red to remove it from my stock headers (live and learn I guess). I only realized this as the car was running like crap when I gave 'er lots of throttle, and it was worse under boost (major black smoke out the back).
I replaced it and the car was running well for awhile. Lately though, I noticed the same symptoms, when I hit the gas, esepcially under load (3rd or 4th gear), the car just doesn't go anywhere. It seems to be only when the car is not completely up to temperature yet. The boost gauge registers, but the car just doesn't move. If I disconnect the O2 sensor, the car no longer bogs down and the problem goes away. As a result disconnecting it though, my idle is rough and low, as well as the power to 3K RPM just isn't smooth anymore.
Tonight I verified the O2 sensor with voltage and it seems it go from .1 to .85 roughly which seems to be within spec. I also tested the O2 connector going to the module by grounding the no.1 pin to the negative battery terminal, and that tested out ok (RPMs went up as did the O2 sensor voltage reading).
I guess I don't need the O2 sensor, but I like the smoothness of the car with it connected.
Help, what next? A relay under the drivers seat? Get a meter to verify the frequency valve?
I replaced it and the car was running well for awhile. Lately though, I noticed the same symptoms, when I hit the gas, esepcially under load (3rd or 4th gear), the car just doesn't go anywhere. It seems to be only when the car is not completely up to temperature yet. The boost gauge registers, but the car just doesn't move. If I disconnect the O2 sensor, the car no longer bogs down and the problem goes away. As a result disconnecting it though, my idle is rough and low, as well as the power to 3K RPM just isn't smooth anymore.
Tonight I verified the O2 sensor with voltage and it seems it go from .1 to .85 roughly which seems to be within spec. I also tested the O2 connector going to the module by grounding the no.1 pin to the negative battery terminal, and that tested out ok (RPMs went up as did the O2 sensor voltage reading).
I guess I don't need the O2 sensor, but I like the smoothness of the car with it connected.
Help, what next? A relay under the drivers seat? Get a meter to verify the frequency valve?
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I'm actually about to do a full tune up.. I figured that when the O2 failed last time, it was so rich that I fouled up some plugs... I just don't want to put new ones in and foul those as well!
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The CO refers to fuel mixture setting at idle. AFR at idle at 3%CO is 13.38 AFR
http://www.perfectpower.com/technical_info/afr.asp
You will need to take it to a garage/emission tester.
Or buy a AFR gauge or buy a Gunsons gastester if you want to get your hands dirty
It has nothing to do with dwell.
http://www.perfectpower.com/technical_info/afr.asp
You will need to take it to a garage/emission tester.
Or buy a AFR gauge or buy a Gunsons gastester if you want to get your hands dirty
It has nothing to do with dwell.
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Would I be able to possible use the voltage I get from the O2 sensor (assuming my O2 sensor is functional). I thought the voltage of the O2 sensor corresponds to a A/F mixture? correct me if I'm wrong, I thought I saw a chart somewhere that says compares voltages to A/f ratios.. somethign like .6V si the figure?
i also presume that the only adjustment I have is the infamous 3M allen screw?
i also presume that the only adjustment I have is the infamous 3M allen screw?
Last edited by mark '87 930; 08-29-2006 at 09:31 PM. Reason: found a chart
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I think the stock sensor is only for measuring 0% CO. Any other reading (voltage) will just be an indication, not a measurement. Basically it will say whether the CO is out or not from 0% and which way it is out (rich or lean).
Correct me if I am wrong guys.
EDIT: That chart you posted pretty much confirms what I am saying. Temperature is more of a factor than the CO to try and get 3% CO.
Correct me if I am wrong guys.
EDIT: That chart you posted pretty much confirms what I am saying. Temperature is more of a factor than the CO to try and get 3% CO.