FS: Incredible 930 Turbo Cab
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FS: Incredible 930 Turbo Cab
For those that know the history, you may wonder if I've lost my mind selling this car. The truth is that the fact that I built it in the first place is probably indicative of psychosis. I tried to build the perfect "all rounder" that would be fast, fun and trackable. I have not driven this car on the track and wouldn't without some major chassis reinforcements. It's just too powerful.
I bought the car in the first place to have fun with the girls (3 or them plus a wife) AND be able to go fast at a DE every now and then. When I started building it, I wasn't racing as much (so racing budget priorities have changed too). Also, my wife and kids don't really even like riding around with the top down. So trying to please everyone, I created the perfect car for none of us...
However, it is an AWESOME street car. It's beautiful and fast and a lot of fun. The car makes nearly 500RWHP. It was built by stephen and the engine is perfect. I've driven it only 700 miles after stephen put the break-in miles on it after the rebuild (probably 1200 total after rebuild plus some dyno time).
It has all kinds of new stuff including brand new Ruf wheels with new Goodyear eagle DSG3s (235/40/17 and 285/40/17). The engine rebuild list includes (don't try to get through this on one breath):
Full porting valve job; w/ 5 angle
Twin plug 911 cylinder head
Twin plug valve cover mod
EBSR V/S Set Racing Valve Spring
12 valve stem seal, teflon
balance crank, f/w & PP
930 3.4 RUF P/C Set 7.5:1
valve spring retainer set- titanium
resurface 911 cyl head set
1 Cam 930 Cams (custom imagineauto grind)
coating; piston & skirt
51m manganese bronze
930 3.3 engine re-ring master kit
Head Gasket Set
rod bearing set, 911/930 3.2/3.3
timing chains
Intake Valves 964/930
1 Hyflow 2 turbo Hyflow 2 turbo - EFI coversion only
Exhaust Valves 964/930
930 Stage 2 Cl... 930 TOB,
Kevlar clutch disc,
Performance PP
flywheel 911 87-89 3.2
valve keepers
shim valve spring .5mm
Air injection plug bolt
Rods PTR RS 911 3.2/3.3 Pauter light weight rod
oil line to cam left
oil line, cam, Rt 911
Oil line turbo sump to tank
Int Intake wires
Ext Exhaust wires
Bosch spark plugs
10 2-1/2" Orange Htr Hose
6 Injector Fuel Injector
1 BOV Aluminum flange; 50mm Blow Off Valve
1 Crank Sensor 3/8 3/8" Crank Sensor
intake gasket
intake studs
intake spacers
Hot Air Duct
Headers - 930/911 Turbo - Complete Kit w/Heat Exchangers (1975-1989) w/ 1.75 Wastegate Pipe
ARP 4206 ARP 4206 Head Stud
Autronic SMC Autronic Engine Management System - ECU, Software & manual, Comm. cable, Unterminated
10' harness, High Speed Air Temp Sensor,
Engine Temp Sensor, Fuel Pump Relay, 5bar
MAP sensor.
Oxygen Sensor
Bosch Throttle
Connector & Boot (TPS)
Connector & Boot (fuel injectors & engine temp)
Engine Sensor Engine Sensor 7/16 threaded Hall (cam sensor)
Autronic Boost... Autronic Boost control valve 222.60 222.60
Autronic R500 Autronic R500 4 Channel CDI controller 1,398.60 1,398.60
M&W Double ... M7 W Double Ended Coil 124.60 747.60
Autronic Reluc... Autronic Reluctor Adapter 154.00 154.00
8 Labor Dyno Tuning
10 Labor EFI Install
50 Labor Motor Rebuild
6 Labor Remove & Reinstall Motor
Paint/Supplies Paint/Supplies for Front and Rear Bumper repair
and refinish
3.5 Labor Bumper modification and installation
1 Kokeln Kokeln Intercooler
1 B&B Front Mount B&B oil cooler
4.5 Labor Oil Cooler Install 105.00 472.50
1 Valve Cover Set 911/911T/930 billet valve cover set
1 WG46-.8 Bar 46mm Tial Wastegate .8 bar
2 PF AP 345 R-4S Porterfield HP Street Pads Rear
2 PF AP 346 F-4S Porterfiled HP Street Pads Front
1 930 351 047 02 Zimmerman Brake Disc FT
1 930 351 048 02 Zimmerman Brake Disc Ft
1 930 352 045 01 Zimmerman Brake Disc RR
1 930 352 046 01 Zimmerman Brake Disc Rr
1 930 556 891 02 Engine Sound Pad 930
1 930 106 081 12 Main engine cover tin
The car needs a couple of little TLC items taken care of like the electric top (works, just needs alignment), etc. I'll take care of all that stuff at my cost before it sells (only fair with a car this nice).
The good:
the engine (see above)
the tires / wheels
new brakes
the medium good:
the interior and paint aren't perfect; would make a good daily driver. This isn't a concurs car, but it looks really good and is about a 7 on a scale of 10 with interior and paint.
the bad:
the clutch is pretty stiff and grabby. You have to rev it and slip it a fair amount to keep it from grabbing. It's a little like a racing clutch, but that's part of the price you pay.
it's REALLY fast. This car will reach 150 plus in under a mile. That's not a typo. You have to be prudent (I should make a buyer sign a waiver...)
I don't know what this crazy, mad cab is worth. It would take well over $80,000 to recreate it after $40k plus in the car plus $40k or more for the engine.
If I can get close to $65,000 with it, I'll swallow my pride and chalk this whole experience up to stupidity and boost addiction.
The bottom line is that I want more of a track car, and this ain't it.
Alternatively, if someone wants the engine, I'd sell it for $25k or so PLUS a decent 3.3L with good leakdown number PLUS the cost of the swap. You'd get all the goodies with the swap and I'd end up with a car I could sell for $40k or more.
I may buy a 964T and swap engines and sell the cab. Hmmmmm...
I'm open to ideas, trades, offers, whatnot.
Thanks for the bandwidth.
-dc
Pics, etc.
I bought the car in the first place to have fun with the girls (3 or them plus a wife) AND be able to go fast at a DE every now and then. When I started building it, I wasn't racing as much (so racing budget priorities have changed too). Also, my wife and kids don't really even like riding around with the top down. So trying to please everyone, I created the perfect car for none of us...
However, it is an AWESOME street car. It's beautiful and fast and a lot of fun. The car makes nearly 500RWHP. It was built by stephen and the engine is perfect. I've driven it only 700 miles after stephen put the break-in miles on it after the rebuild (probably 1200 total after rebuild plus some dyno time).
It has all kinds of new stuff including brand new Ruf wheels with new Goodyear eagle DSG3s (235/40/17 and 285/40/17). The engine rebuild list includes (don't try to get through this on one breath):
Full porting valve job; w/ 5 angle
Twin plug 911 cylinder head
Twin plug valve cover mod
EBSR V/S Set Racing Valve Spring
12 valve stem seal, teflon
balance crank, f/w & PP
930 3.4 RUF P/C Set 7.5:1
valve spring retainer set- titanium
resurface 911 cyl head set
1 Cam 930 Cams (custom imagineauto grind)
coating; piston & skirt
51m manganese bronze
930 3.3 engine re-ring master kit
Head Gasket Set
rod bearing set, 911/930 3.2/3.3
timing chains
Intake Valves 964/930
1 Hyflow 2 turbo Hyflow 2 turbo - EFI coversion only
Exhaust Valves 964/930
930 Stage 2 Cl... 930 TOB,
Kevlar clutch disc,
Performance PP
flywheel 911 87-89 3.2
valve keepers
shim valve spring .5mm
Air injection plug bolt
Rods PTR RS 911 3.2/3.3 Pauter light weight rod
oil line to cam left
oil line, cam, Rt 911
Oil line turbo sump to tank
Int Intake wires
Ext Exhaust wires
Bosch spark plugs
10 2-1/2" Orange Htr Hose
6 Injector Fuel Injector
1 BOV Aluminum flange; 50mm Blow Off Valve
1 Crank Sensor 3/8 3/8" Crank Sensor
intake gasket
intake studs
intake spacers
Hot Air Duct
Headers - 930/911 Turbo - Complete Kit w/Heat Exchangers (1975-1989) w/ 1.75 Wastegate Pipe
ARP 4206 ARP 4206 Head Stud
Autronic SMC Autronic Engine Management System - ECU, Software & manual, Comm. cable, Unterminated
10' harness, High Speed Air Temp Sensor,
Engine Temp Sensor, Fuel Pump Relay, 5bar
MAP sensor.
Oxygen Sensor
Bosch Throttle
Connector & Boot (TPS)
Connector & Boot (fuel injectors & engine temp)
Engine Sensor Engine Sensor 7/16 threaded Hall (cam sensor)
Autronic Boost... Autronic Boost control valve 222.60 222.60
Autronic R500 Autronic R500 4 Channel CDI controller 1,398.60 1,398.60
M&W Double ... M7 W Double Ended Coil 124.60 747.60
Autronic Reluc... Autronic Reluctor Adapter 154.00 154.00
8 Labor Dyno Tuning
10 Labor EFI Install
50 Labor Motor Rebuild
6 Labor Remove & Reinstall Motor
Paint/Supplies Paint/Supplies for Front and Rear Bumper repair
and refinish
3.5 Labor Bumper modification and installation
1 Kokeln Kokeln Intercooler
1 B&B Front Mount B&B oil cooler
4.5 Labor Oil Cooler Install 105.00 472.50
1 Valve Cover Set 911/911T/930 billet valve cover set
1 WG46-.8 Bar 46mm Tial Wastegate .8 bar
2 PF AP 345 R-4S Porterfield HP Street Pads Rear
2 PF AP 346 F-4S Porterfiled HP Street Pads Front
1 930 351 047 02 Zimmerman Brake Disc FT
1 930 351 048 02 Zimmerman Brake Disc Ft
1 930 352 045 01 Zimmerman Brake Disc RR
1 930 352 046 01 Zimmerman Brake Disc Rr
1 930 556 891 02 Engine Sound Pad 930
1 930 106 081 12 Main engine cover tin
The car needs a couple of little TLC items taken care of like the electric top (works, just needs alignment), etc. I'll take care of all that stuff at my cost before it sells (only fair with a car this nice).
The good:
the engine (see above)
the tires / wheels
new brakes
the medium good:
the interior and paint aren't perfect; would make a good daily driver. This isn't a concurs car, but it looks really good and is about a 7 on a scale of 10 with interior and paint.
the bad:
the clutch is pretty stiff and grabby. You have to rev it and slip it a fair amount to keep it from grabbing. It's a little like a racing clutch, but that's part of the price you pay.
it's REALLY fast. This car will reach 150 plus in under a mile. That's not a typo. You have to be prudent (I should make a buyer sign a waiver...)
I don't know what this crazy, mad cab is worth. It would take well over $80,000 to recreate it after $40k plus in the car plus $40k or more for the engine.
If I can get close to $65,000 with it, I'll swallow my pride and chalk this whole experience up to stupidity and boost addiction.
The bottom line is that I want more of a track car, and this ain't it.
Alternatively, if someone wants the engine, I'd sell it for $25k or so PLUS a decent 3.3L with good leakdown number PLUS the cost of the swap. You'd get all the goodies with the swap and I'd end up with a car I could sell for $40k or more.
I may buy a 964T and swap engines and sell the cab. Hmmmmm...
I'm open to ideas, trades, offers, whatnot.
Thanks for the bandwidth.
-dc
Pics, etc.
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I don't know why rennlist hates me so much when it comes to pics. Here are the links if the pics aren't working above:
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/frontside.2.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/side.2.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/engine2.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dyno2.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/frontside.2.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/side.2.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/engine2.jpg
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dyno2.jpg
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#11
That dyno is on no boost. You figure the motor is worth most of the $, but group that with a 89 930 cab and you have a pretty expensive setup. Monster sold the first time for apx 89K. So I think 65K is reasonable.
#12
No question you should buy a 930 coupe, swap the engine/suspension out of the cab, and then sell the cab. Will probably cost you less than $10k net after you make the swap (and sell the cab).
#13
Originally Posted by 38D
No question you should buy a 930 coupe, swap the engine/suspension out of the cab, and then sell the cab. Will probably cost you less than $10k net after you make the swap (and sell the cab).
#14
Originally Posted by 38D
No question you should buy a 930 coupe, swap the engine/suspension out of the cab, and then sell the cab. Will probably cost you less than $10k net after you make the swap (and sell the cab).
Toto, we gotta go back to kansas again...
-dc
#15
Originally Posted by slownrusty
Totally totally awesome engine....WOW....but $25K + a good healthy 3.3L Turbo engine (which are around $8K) + the cost of a RE&RE (say $3k)....you are up to $40K....yikes...
Yasin
Yasin
This thing will run well over 1.1bar. Could easily make 550+ rwhp. It's got all the goodies to do so.
I'm not arguing any of this is particularly logical. Hey, if you don't do a few stupid things, you aren't working hard enough at having fun....
maybe I can scare up a black 964t....
-dc