1983 Canadian 930?
#16
Originally Posted by jgrant
I think you might have mis-read//typed that VIN. I'm going to guess that it's supposed to be WPOJA935HS050087.
If that's the case, it was the 2nd last produced Canadian turbo.
Canadian turbos for that VIN range only go from WPOJA935HS050001-0088, with a total of 88 produced.
There are no VIN's (that I can find) that are in the range of WPOJA935HS055087.
...jeff
If that's the case, it was the 2nd last produced Canadian turbo.
Canadian turbos for that VIN range only go from WPOJA935HS050001-0088, with a total of 88 produced.
There are no VIN's (that I can find) that are in the range of WPOJA935HS055087.
...jeff
My cousin in Germany has a friend at Porsche that test drives each new car looking for interior noises. I've asked him get his friend to do a check on the car's authenticity. Let's see what he come up with. Maybe yor book doesn't contain all details about every car? I have the original billing from VW Canada selling the car to the dealer and the purchasing contract to the buyer as well.
#17
Originally Posted by turboGary
I just rechecked and the ser# I gave is correct. WPOJA935HS050087.
Originally Posted by turboGary
Maybe yor book doesn't contain all details about every car? I have the original billing from VW Canada selling the car to the dealer and the purchasing contract to the buyer as well.
I'd be interested in any info you may get from your source, if you wouldn't mind sharing it when you get it.
...jeff
#18
Originally Posted by jgrant
Actually, the serial you originally gave was WP0JA0935HS055087, but no big deal.
That is a DEFINITE possibility... in no way am I saying that the book is the "be all, end all" word on this... I'm just relaying what it happens to say.
I'd be interested in any info you may get from your source, if you wouldn't mind sharing it when you get it.
...jeff
That is a DEFINITE possibility... in no way am I saying that the book is the "be all, end all" word on this... I'm just relaying what it happens to say.
I'd be interested in any info you may get from your source, if you wouldn't mind sharing it when you get it.
...jeff
the ser # is WP0JA0935HS055087 Sorry for the confusion , I actually went to look at the car and verified it by the wiindow tag, the stamping under the hood and sticker in the door jam. They all confirm it. I will post my cousin's friends findings when he gets back to me.
#19
check it out, found this at porsche serial numbers
Porsche Chassis Numbers Explained.
How to identify the true build year and model of a Porsche from the chassis number.
The date of registration is not an accurate way of determining the model year of your Porsche, it's that the Porsche could have been unused in a showroom and registered later. Therefore it's worth knowing the real model year/ build year.
To find out accurately take a look at the 10th digit of the chassis number.
For example; WPOZZZ91ZGS10000.
The first, second and third characters - 'WPO' is the international Porsche code.
The fourth , fifth and sixth characters 'ZZZ' are fill in characters on European and rest of world cars.
For North American cars the fourth digit represented the body style; A/B or C- Coupe/Targa or Cabrio.
The 7th,8th and 12 digit represent the model code. Therefore a 911 will be WPOZZZ91Z?S1?????; a Turbo (930) will be WPOZZZ93ZS?0????; similarly a 964, 993, 996 and 986 (Boxster).
The 10th digit in the chassis number is the model year or series;
A=1980; B=1981;C=1982;D=1983
E=1984;F=1985;G=1986;H=1987;J=1988;K=1989.
L=1990; M=1991; N=1992; P=1993;
R=1994; S=1995; T=1996; V=1997;
W=1998;X=1999;Y=2000; then it changes to a more simple format 1=2001;2=2002 etc.
The eleventh digit = place of manufacture S= Stuttgart.
The thirteenth digit onwards the production number.
Given this info my car would be a 935 not a 930. Is that possible???
Porsche Chassis Numbers Explained.
How to identify the true build year and model of a Porsche from the chassis number.
The date of registration is not an accurate way of determining the model year of your Porsche, it's that the Porsche could have been unused in a showroom and registered later. Therefore it's worth knowing the real model year/ build year.
To find out accurately take a look at the 10th digit of the chassis number.
For example; WPOZZZ91ZGS10000.
The first, second and third characters - 'WPO' is the international Porsche code.
The fourth , fifth and sixth characters 'ZZZ' are fill in characters on European and rest of world cars.
For North American cars the fourth digit represented the body style; A/B or C- Coupe/Targa or Cabrio.
The 7th,8th and 12 digit represent the model code. Therefore a 911 will be WPOZZZ91Z?S1?????; a Turbo (930) will be WPOZZZ93ZS?0????; similarly a 964, 993, 996 and 986 (Boxster).
The 10th digit in the chassis number is the model year or series;
A=1980; B=1981;C=1982;D=1983
E=1984;F=1985;G=1986;H=1987;J=1988;K=1989.
L=1990; M=1991; N=1992; P=1993;
R=1994; S=1995; T=1996; V=1997;
W=1998;X=1999;Y=2000; then it changes to a more simple format 1=2001;2=2002 etc.
The eleventh digit = place of manufacture S= Stuttgart.
The thirteenth digit onwards the production number.
Given this info my car would be a 935 not a 930. Is that possible???
#20
Originally Posted by turboGary
Given this info my car would be a 935 not a 930. Is that possible???
There were some special 935's made by Design Plastics (DP) that were labelled DP935's (I have one of them), but the VIN is still that of the 930.
Mind you, I could be SOOO wrong about this... I'm only going by what this little book says, and am simply relaying the info within.
That being said, the book checked out 100% with my 1982 DP935, which is a 911 Turbo with a whack of mods on it.
I don't know... it's all getting quite confusing!
Have you tried calling Porsche's 1-800 number? I called them before I was going to buy my car and they validated the VIN for me and told me the options that were on that car, etc. Just a thought.
Regardless, I'm getting more and more interested in what your friend might have to say.
...jeff
#21
Jeff,
When I first purchased my '85 930S back in '98, I called the "800" number for assistance. I even went as far as purchasing a CoA as validation that the car was truly a Factory Slant. The CoA was of little use since Special Wishes Porsches were a special order item and therefore option codes did not exist until MY '87. All my CoA has shown is that the numbers match and all the factory options(outside of Werk I) are indeed on the car.
I would love to see a build sheet from Werk I for a pre-'87 Special Wishes car. Anyone out there have one?
When I first purchased my '85 930S back in '98, I called the "800" number for assistance. I even went as far as purchasing a CoA as validation that the car was truly a Factory Slant. The CoA was of little use since Special Wishes Porsches were a special order item and therefore option codes did not exist until MY '87. All my CoA has shown is that the numbers match and all the factory options(outside of Werk I) are indeed on the car.
I would love to see a build sheet from Werk I for a pre-'87 Special Wishes car. Anyone out there have one?
#22
Dave, I'm going to try getting a build sheet for mine some how. The previous owner of my car had one which cost him $100 (Can) he kept it though...
The sticker under the hood has codes along with the 505(slantnose) telling you what options your car was ordered with but not every feature the car is equipt with, the buid sheet will tell you this I believe.
BTW I love those rims, what are they and cost?
The sticker under the hood has codes along with the 505(slantnose) telling you what options your car was ordered with but not every feature the car is equipt with, the buid sheet will tell you this I believe.
BTW I love those rims, what are they and cost?
#23
turboGary,
Yep, I have that rectangular white sticker under the hood. Only problem is the 505 option numbers didn't appear until it became an "official" factory option for the '87 Model Year.
Glad you like the wheels. They're Fikse FM5's, machined centers, polished rims, 17x8 front and 17x10 rear. I think I paid around $2400 for the complete set back in 2000. Fikse has a new 5 spoke wheel that looks even better(imho anyway). Great wheel, got them from Wheel Enhancement.
Yep, I have that rectangular white sticker under the hood. Only problem is the 505 option numbers didn't appear until it became an "official" factory option for the '87 Model Year.
Glad you like the wheels. They're Fikse FM5's, machined centers, polished rims, 17x8 front and 17x10 rear. I think I paid around $2400 for the complete set back in 2000. Fikse has a new 5 spoke wheel that looks even better(imho anyway). Great wheel, got them from Wheel Enhancement.
#24
I see, that's right... 930's weren't offered again in Canada until 86' and the ones that were here were grey market, same in the USA I presume?
I was offered a set of Dynamic Racing wheels from the owner for $3k Canadian but didn't take them. They looked similar to your Fikse. He said for the price of the car I could have them or the factory wheels but not both, I chose the factory ones figuring it would be harder to find again if I wanted them later. The car is 100% original so it's better to keep it that way for investment purposes perhaps
I was offered a set of Dynamic Racing wheels from the owner for $3k Canadian but didn't take them. They looked similar to your Fikse. He said for the price of the car I could have them or the factory wheels but not both, I chose the factory ones figuring it would be harder to find again if I wanted them later. The car is 100% original so it's better to keep it that way for investment purposes perhaps
#25
Turbos were always available in Canada with no break from 79 - 86 like in the US. Also, all the 3.3l Canadian cars were 300hp stock (as were the Euro cars) as they had the Euro exhaust. US 3.3l cars were 260 hp to '79, then 282 from '87 - '89. Porsche didn't achieve their goal of common engines / power ratings with the 911 until the 964 came along (although I believe that the 944s were the same worldwide).