911rudy

930 Nuts,
I am living proof that the legend lives. I am 62 years old and have owned a 356C and a 911 T, and an '87 Carrera Targa. I have owned all manner of cars and I just traded my Carrera with very low miles for a 930 with 68,000 miles on it because I am tired of babying a low milage car. The 930 I traded for is not perfect but the engine and subsystems have been recently rebuilt so this is a fun car! I take this beast out and drive the hell out of it and come home with dried out lips stuck to my teeth. I feel like a gladiator when I take her out because I am battleing the world and I want to know every move and response she makes. **** the radio and the A/C! Watch the boost gage and live!

Sameer

911rudy,
you hit the nail on the dot. Very well said.

Sameer

911Rudy,
Welcome to the club, the world of 911's.

Ed Bighi

Even though I don't have a 930 in my possession right now, I have been driving the living **** out of 930's for years. Even though they were other people's cars, it didn't matter. The owners were more than willing to lend me their cars if I could teach a GT3 a thing or two about what cojones of the proper size can make a 930 do to a GT3, Z06 or Viper. I have been fortunate enough to be driving Porsches ever since I was in college and have driven every type and generation of Porsches. Today, there is only two for me. The carrera rs 2.7 (or some replica) and the 930. But the 930 I tend to like that little bit more. It is the only car that when I place on the track, requires me to use my brain to analize the speed of the turn, rpm's, and the boost delay to arrive at the perfect early stomp on the gas. For me it's heaven on earth. I love everything about it. The wicked kick in the *** boost delivery, the "when is it coming or how hard will it come" guessing game, the sound, the sound, the sound. If somebody grew up like me, in Florida watching Daytona and Sebring in the 80's, they know the sound of a 935 from a mile away. And to my mind, the 930 is closest to that. To me, the 930 is the perfect car. If I had $50K to spend right now, I would get the best 930 possible. If I had $100K, I would get not only the best 930 but two of them. I would not even think about anything else other than a good RS or lookalike to complement the 930. Or maybe build a 935? But it does not matter. For me, Porsche is the 930, period. Not for everybody, but I am not everybody. I carry my ***** in a wheelbarrow and because of that, only the 930 satisfies my boost/lag addiction. Only single turbo please. Drive a modified 930 with some turbo that belongs in a Peterbuilt, and there is no going back. If I could have the perfect garage, it would sport a 930 with four speed, yes four speed, an RS 2.7 or lookalike, and a good 356. I would be done. Everything else would be just topping on the cake.

As to age groups, keep one thing in mind. Back in the late 70's and 80's, a good number of 930 drivers were *******. Mostly goody-goody boy scouts who had made some money, but who had never driven very fast. Needless to say, they were more scared than excited when driving them. Quite similar to the ******* we see bying new Porsches today. Nowadays, it is the *****-to-the-wall adrenaline junkies that are buying the 930's. It does not matter the age. If the kids aren't buing them, it's because, generally speaking, kids today don't know jack. When I was a kid in the 80's, most kids then knew full well what a Daytona or 250GT0 was. Kids today don't know anything that isn't printed in R&T, C&D and MT. Give them I ride in a 930, like i do sometimes in my stripped SC, and you might as well have given them a heroin hit. They are done for and instant air-cooled addicts. So if the market for a 930 is a small group of die-hards who one would not mind drinking beer with, so be it. Fine for me. After all, in the age of the metrosexual, what else could one expect. The 930 was made at a time when if one wanted to go fast, a mere fat wallet would not suffice. One also needed to possess a fair degree of skill to go with it. Personally, I don't care if the car becomes a classic or not. I just need the 930 experience like a need a cold beer on a hot day and that is that. It is my drug of choice.

On a side note, the other day I took a good friend for a spin an another good friend's modified 930. He had ridden in every type of Porsche from the 356 to the 996 turbo. The moment I stomped on it and that thing went "whoosh" with a ****load of boost, he just started cracking up and said "ah man, this is sex! Sex! Oh man, this is awesome. So violent. Not just fast, like other stuff, but wicked violent. Nothing softening up the violence. Man! Sex! God damn, I gotta get one of these. Why isn't everybody driving one if they feel this freakin' good?" "Beats me" I said. Those were his exact words. Not everybody is a 930 addict. I am though, and that guy became one. The day I get off my *** and pick one up, I'll never sell it. Ever.

Luis de Prat

You don't say where in Europe you're moving, but I would consider taking it with you. Around $1,500 roll-on/roll-off. Been there, done that.

Kardos

I am going to Hungary. You can't take a car that is older than 6 years old into the country for more than a month. And you can't drive to border and back in every 30 days... After the second 30 days they won't lat the car in....

Luis de Prat

Well, AFAIK Hungary will be joining the EU pretty soon, and those vehicle restrictions will no doubt change.

You might also consider storing it. I stored a car for over a year in pricey Ft. Lauderdale, FL before I finally shipped it to Europe. Good luck with the sale.

fixnprsh

here is my spin, the 930 is a mans car, a true sports car we can appreciate. raw power and skill needed to pilot this beast has been replaced by kids my age 25-35 with cash who's driver education consists of PSM and AWD with ABS. I'm 25 and I've been around these beasts since i was old enough to hold a wrench at my pops shop. I have respect for this car as it is Thors hammer in its purest form. A cruel instrument. All the rich kids can have thier 996 turbos, when they are ready for a real car then can hang with you guys. Infact our lead tech (with Porsche since '72) prefers the RWD turbo's (930, 3.6 964, GT2) from a drivers stand point (he used to race super cart and SCCA) to the TT996. but thats my two cents

SkippyCrunchySmooth

Dying breed or not, I'm 20 years old and I'll get a 930 as soon as I can afford one. I've never driven one...hell, I've never even ridden in one. (Any 930 owner in PA who would like to change that, let me know) I love that they take skill to drive fast, and I love the rawness of the air cooled engine. I dont' want any of that electronic garbage that stifles modern sports cars either. The 930 is definitely the car for me. How many WRXs and Evos do you think will still be on the roads in 25 years?

Red Rocket

Where in PA are you?

SkippyCrunchySmooth

I go to school in Carlisle, PA, but I'm originally from Kennett Square, PA...about an hour west of Philly.

Red Rocket

I'm in Camp Hill, PA only about a half hour from you, so if you want to see/ride let me know.
Don

Gator_86_951

Between my father and I we have an 89 930 (purchased new) and an 86 951. He bought the 930 and brought it home on my 8th Birthday. I am now 23. There is no way in hell that car is leaving the family. We started doing PCA DE events in the 930 and quickly realized we really needed another car, that is when we bought the 951. We have now decided that running the 930 is a bad idea after an incident at mid-ohio, and my dad has decided to get something else to run at the track that is new and has a warranty etc... So, basically he is buying a car of equivalent value (thinking about a Z06, hold the argument) specifically to avoid harming the 930. That car is awesome. My 951 isn't even in the same league and there is nothing that could ever be what a 930 is. Did anybody really know about Porsche history and what Porsche was in the 80s. Not really. They just saw the 930 as a super car. Anyone who understands this "1976 - Porsche wins the first of 13 consecutive Sebring races." understands the dominance of the racing versions of these cars. It is still awesome when we go to Sebring (home track) and see all the Porsche signs along the pits for those years. So, yes I agree it is kind of a dying breed. But the bread wasn't really the true enthusiasts like Rennlisters. It was just a supercar to them.

Techno Duck

Not sure what to call myself in relation to the 930. I always loved the car as a kid, but never knew much about them until i got my 924S. Now i guess you can say im a Porsche nut. I hope to get one by the time i am in the 25 - 30 age bracket. That gives me about 6 years to get myself together. I seriously just hope there are still good examples of the 930 floating around in that time, and of course parts for it are still easily availabe.

One thing i love about the p-cars made before the 80's is the simplicity of the design. Not over engineered so that you need a specialist to do any work on it. But an average (well equipped) joe can do most, if not all of the work by themselves. There are no useless electronics or overly complicated electrical systems. Its a barebones automobile, and an awsome one at that.

I feel the same way about SkippyCrunchy. Ive never ridden in a 930, but i have read enough testimonials from owners that say its an awsome experience. And i agree compeltley about the longevity of a Porsche. All of my buddies who are into there Fords, Nissans, Toyotas...etc. How many of those will still be eye catchers in 10 years? How many will still be on the road in 20?

mmeany

Hi All,
I think its time to chime in. The cars are rare so the number of people able to own one would be low. If you've never driven one you have little experience on how exciting they really are. If everyone had that opportunity the question of a dying breed would not even come up.
I am 42, it took me this long to be able to afford one. I built a '65 Mustang in my early 20's and held onto it unitl last year. It was time to move from brute power and old technology to refined power and more recent technology. My choice was a good one for me.
Last weekend, I went on a tour with 28 other p-cars from the local PCA club (CVR). Many of the people there were at or nearing retirement age but there were also people my age or younger. I guess what I am trying to say is we are not dying but evolving as is so common among many things in the world today. I love driving my car.
M