Fuchs: authentic or not?
07-15-2017, 07:40 PM
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Fuchs: authentic or not?
Hey folks, I'm looking at these wheels that the owner believes to be originals from the rear of an 88 Turbo. (16x9)
I have read the threads on identifying numbers and markings, yet the wheels are so dirty I can see none of the stampings inside the petals. I can however make out some markings toward the outside.
The clearest of these say 'Max Wheel Load 1620" and "AEWC".(Or "ALWC".) A little embarrassed I'm not a better detective than this, so hoping someone can help me out.
I have read the threads on identifying numbers and markings, yet the wheels are so dirty I can see none of the stampings inside the petals. I can however make out some markings toward the outside.
The clearest of these say 'Max Wheel Load 1620" and "AEWC".(Or "ALWC".) A little embarrassed I'm not a better detective than this, so hoping someone can help me out.
07-19-2017, 06:53 AM
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on a side note what's the going rate for a set of 7/9 16 Oem fuchs?
07-20-2017, 09:40 AM
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That's a good question. My answer will be more about observations than a list of ask/sold prices.
I think the new ones being offered (Suncoast and others) have shunted the formerly 'not making them anymore' rarity of the old wheels' ever-escalating trend. Suncoast is at $1100 each, new in box. If you miss their initial batch, you get to wait an indeterminate amount of time.
It seems only those demanding 'date coded' wheels tend to follow that thinking now. Whether that's of merit, I can't say.
Others contend that 30+ year old wheels have years and miles of fatigue, possibly unknown cracking from dozens of clamp-downs or accident. Not a good recipe for safety, so new, 'correct' wheels are as acceptable as any wear item.
Sevens seem plentiful enough, and I've found a few of those, generally paired with 8's. The sets have gone from $1200-$2500; the broad range purely upon condition or owner's estimation.
The 9's are in a different world. I had a set of tracked 9s bought and agreed upon at $1200 for the pair, but the owner and his car partner decided to finish out the season first. We'll see.
Many have priced their 9" wheels at the new price or even much more, depending. The cost of reconditioning must be factored as well, since the main two or three vendors on Fuchs are 'around' 200-300 per wheel. So a 'bad' set will end up running you some semi serious dough to correct.
All these factors make the market hard to peg a tight price point. Quite often, the time consumed to find a set, skepticism over 'true' condition, and refinishing costs force many (most?) to just get a great set of replicas, which seem to be in a mild flourish. Quality has - I'm told - improved markedly. It is definitely tempting.
I'm sure others can quote some exact sales that may help, or PM you with asking prices. For me, I'm still in the hunt.
P.S. What in the heck size/type are you running in your fabulous avatar?
I think the new ones being offered (Suncoast and others) have shunted the formerly 'not making them anymore' rarity of the old wheels' ever-escalating trend. Suncoast is at $1100 each, new in box. If you miss their initial batch, you get to wait an indeterminate amount of time.
It seems only those demanding 'date coded' wheels tend to follow that thinking now. Whether that's of merit, I can't say.
Others contend that 30+ year old wheels have years and miles of fatigue, possibly unknown cracking from dozens of clamp-downs or accident. Not a good recipe for safety, so new, 'correct' wheels are as acceptable as any wear item.
Sevens seem plentiful enough, and I've found a few of those, generally paired with 8's. The sets have gone from $1200-$2500; the broad range purely upon condition or owner's estimation.
The 9's are in a different world. I had a set of tracked 9s bought and agreed upon at $1200 for the pair, but the owner and his car partner decided to finish out the season first. We'll see.
Many have priced their 9" wheels at the new price or even much more, depending. The cost of reconditioning must be factored as well, since the main two or three vendors on Fuchs are 'around' 200-300 per wheel. So a 'bad' set will end up running you some semi serious dough to correct.
All these factors make the market hard to peg a tight price point. Quite often, the time consumed to find a set, skepticism over 'true' condition, and refinishing costs force many (most?) to just get a great set of replicas, which seem to be in a mild flourish. Quality has - I'm told - improved markedly. It is definitely tempting.
I'm sure others can quote some exact sales that may help, or PM you with asking prices. For me, I'm still in the hunt.
P.S. What in the heck size/type are you running in your fabulous avatar?
Last edited by Adams; 07-20-2017 at 10:01 AM.
07-20-2017, 01:06 PM
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I wish i knew what was in the avatar I chased to find out who built it and who owns it to get more details but guessing that's an easy 11" wheel with proper offset and a 5" lip or so.
The fuchs seem to be all over the place price wise I've seen 9's sell for close to 2k and personally I'm looking to jump into a 17" wheel and my car is a mutant so I don't see a need to hold onto them. I'll clean them up and post them and hope for a quick sale
The fuchs seem to be all over the place price wise I've seen 9's sell for close to 2k and personally I'm looking to jump into a 17" wheel and my car is a mutant so I don't see a need to hold onto them. I'll clean them up and post them and hope for a quick sale