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Old 10-29-2014 | 06:00 PM
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Why the heck are the 911 tool kits so dad blame expensive? I don't get it. They came in every car. There has to be a plethora of them from wrecked ones.

And of course I need one as mine didn't come with one. But no way am I paying $500 for that thing.

Someone please enlighten me.
Old 10-29-2014 | 06:13 PM
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Cars were of a higher quality and so outlived the tools I suspect a few 1st owners kept them as souveneer too and those are what comes up for sale.
Old 10-29-2014 | 06:31 PM
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Where can you get a NEW tool kit for $500?
Old 10-29-2014 | 07:18 PM
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LOL. My car not only had the original tool kit (completely untouched), but it had the original plastic gloves too.
Old 10-29-2014 | 08:28 PM
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Yeah they are crazy expensive. Even St Hershey they wanted big dollars for tool kits.
Old 10-30-2014 | 11:03 AM
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Does having the tool kit increase re-sale value? Does anyone really bust open their $500 tool kit to fix a roadside problem?
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When its a proper low mile classic every little detail help - I saw a classic mercedes hardtop valued at $50,000 prior to an auction - I assume value of part is reflective of enhanced car value.
Old 10-30-2014 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by obscene
Does having the tool kit increase re-sale value? Does anyone really bust open their $500 tool kit to fix a roadside problem?
It will in the future if the car becomes collectable. Some 1950s/60s Ferrari tool kits are going for 5 figures!
Old 10-30-2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by amber lamps
LOL. My car not only had the original tool kit (completely untouched), but it had the original plastic gloves too.
Yeah, rub it in. Rub it in, Mr. Rubber Gloves.
Old 10-30-2014 | 06:27 PM
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Gloves? What year range?
Old 10-30-2014 | 07:48 PM
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Its just like anything else, many of us are OCD and want everything to be just so.... As a result I have a perfect, 100% complete tool kit in every Porsche I own. If I am missing anything I hunt around and find the missing items. I want them even down to the correct Pudenz fuse pack. I can certainly admit its silly, but I want the rest of the car that way as well.

I notice you have a M491 car. On that car there is a VERY strong collector following so yes having a correct, complete and nice tool kit will make a difference in its value. Its not a deal breaker, but if you spent $500 on a toolkit you would at least get that back at sale time. In the future it will probably be even harder to find. If its just a driver you are keeping forever, you could pass.

In terms of their actual use in a roadside emergency, I can say I have used the screwdrivers, the wrenches, the sunroof closing tool, etc. If you were just a pragmatist I would just put together a small leather bag of your favorite tools and put it in the trunk.

They are expensive because many people must be like me and want them. They were always left in the trunk where they were exposed to moisture and oftentimes battery acid. This ruined many of them. Also many people took them out of the trunk and now 4 owners later they are missing.

I attached photos of the trunk, tools and accessories on my 88 3.2 Carrera as a reference for how everything should look and what should be present. On a US spec car (Euro cars also have a warning triangle and First aid kit) and often a different type/brand of air-compressor:

- Tool kit (note Pudenz fuse pack)
- Air compressor (note most have broken closing tabs and are missing the 3 air accessories)
- Clear plastic that is designed to hold the dirty wheel in the event you have to use the temporary.
-Plastic gloves
-Green Dot Jack (stored in front with a rubber bungee type strap

Other items I often see missing are the hold down for the spare, the fuse box diagram (white laminated sheet on the fuse box), battery vent.




















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Agreed Nathan,

I've got one coming my way.
Old 10-31-2014 | 01:21 AM
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So let's say you've got a unicorn--said M491, one owner, ~30K miles, full history, concours winner, pure as the driven snow. But it's missing the tool kit. Would you only get $499,499 out of it instead of $499,999?

I suppose at some level on the pointy end of these cars, you could just go buy a whole ratted out POS that had a tool kit. Then flip the underlying car.
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I thought concours meant " as it left the factory" or are some concours valued in lesser light?
Old 10-31-2014 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mondrian
I thought concours meant " as it left the factory" or are some concours valued in lesser light?
Most high line Concours de Elegance have now become a group of virtually perfect cars in much better shape than the day they left the factory. Cars that are as they left the factory only have a chance of winning in the Preservation Class.


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