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Old 10-14-2014, 08:40 PM
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So I’ve been talking to a dealer in IN since late August about an ’88 coupe they got in. It took them some time to get it ready to sell and last Friday I reached an agreement with the dealership. I asked about a deposit and he told me that he had talked to me so many times that “[my] word was good enough.” We agreed I would set up the PPI on Monday. When I called back on Monday morning, another guy at the dealership said, “We may have a problem,” because he sold the car on Saturday for $4500 more than I had agreed. I said I wasn’t going to pay that much and he said I didn’t have to, that I had to pay only $2000 more. He said they even had a call since then for the full ebay BIN price. There were no indications of any bids or offers on the ebay site.

What’s the consensus about this type of treatment? I specifically asked about a deposit and would have gladly made one, but I was assured it wasn’t necessary. I’m assuming there is no legal recourse with little legal value given to verbal agreements, but is this an ethical/proper way to do business? Or is it strictly “Money talks?”
Old 10-14-2014, 09:15 PM
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Sorry bout that, but a used car dealer gives you his 'word'. Without a deposit/contract you didn't stand a chance.
Btw, what did it sell for?
Old 10-14-2014, 10:39 PM
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May be worth a call to the State AGs office. Better yet, let the dealer know you did this and the interest they expressed in this outcome. May be a stretch to say so, but also may provide just enough scare to work the issue loose. Sorry something as exciting got so upside down.
Old 10-15-2014, 11:14 AM
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Never trust a dealer. Always give them a deposit and get a receipt for that deposit. In CA a verbal contract is binding but you have to prove it happened.
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It should go like this:

1. View car
2. Negotiate price
3. PPI
4. Execute purchase agreement that binds both parties (pending PPI) to sell at the agreed upon price with a deposit to formalize the agreement.
5. Sales agreement that produces a receipt for purchase
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Default I would switch items 3 and 4 on your list.

That way you don't spend $$ on a PPI before having an executed contract.
Old 10-15-2014, 05:29 PM
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First, anybody can become a "dealer". In Pa all you need is to pay a fee and have a "facility".

Second, collector car price are spiraling, and air-cooled Porsches are hot, so sleezebags are crawling out of the woodwork to cash in, so caveat emptor.

IMHO, these guys sound like schmucks. Take you time an buy a car from a legitimate private owner. That's how most of these cars change hands.
Old 10-15-2014, 06:42 PM
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You and the other buyer both got played against each other. You should have known this the second he didn't want a deposit.
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I would not be happy with the dealer at all, but do realize you left yourself vulnerable, and pledge not to get "fooled again".
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Originally Posted by tone40
That way you don't spend $$ on a PPI before having an executed contract.
Good point.
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What is worst? The problem people ask Dear Abby to help them with... Or people who ask Dear Abby for help? A deal is never done until paperwork is signed and money is exchanged. A word is worth what the bank exchange rate is... Nothing. This is not the last 88 on the planet, so chalk this up as a lesson and let it go.



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