1977 911s- should i buy
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Hey all,
My name is Michael I'm 29. My dad had a 914 imported from Germany with a Chalon kit when i was a kid so i have been a porsche kid since day 1~! I'd like to buy him a new one.
Moving along a 1977 911s in all its barn find glory has popped up near me. The seller is asking 5k. I don't plan on paying that much.
So far from what i know it had an engine that was starved of oil at some point it was pulled. It was then given a 2nd engine from LA that had knock immediately. So it comes with two non running engines. Other wise the overall state of the car is ROUGH.
Thoughts on a budget ? I'm pretty handy and have built lots of Toyota's but never thought id be able to afford a porsche.
Imaginary Budget
Paint - 2500
Window seals - $1000 ( pitting and rust)
Engine - 2500-3000 hoping to get a 3.0L
General mucking about- $1500
Pics attached !
Any and all suggestions welcomed!
My name is Michael I'm 29. My dad had a 914 imported from Germany with a Chalon kit when i was a kid so i have been a porsche kid since day 1~! I'd like to buy him a new one.
Moving along a 1977 911s in all its barn find glory has popped up near me. The seller is asking 5k. I don't plan on paying that much.
So far from what i know it had an engine that was starved of oil at some point it was pulled. It was then given a 2nd engine from LA that had knock immediately. So it comes with two non running engines. Other wise the overall state of the car is ROUGH.
Thoughts on a budget ? I'm pretty handy and have built lots of Toyota's but never thought id be able to afford a porsche.
Imaginary Budget
Paint - 2500
Window seals - $1000 ( pitting and rust)
Engine - 2500-3000 hoping to get a 3.0L
General mucking about- $1500
Pics attached !
Any and all suggestions welcomed!
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Two crappy engines. That could be a double batch of useless parts. If you had a good set of pistons and cylinders, case, heads, crank and cams-you could easily spend $8k in parts and machining to build a stock engine.
If you did paint the car yourself, you could get by with $2500. But that much rust showing on a '77 is the tip of the iceberg-there are MANY hours of rust repair.
The fiddly item budget could easily be doubled to $3k or 4k. If you went through the brakes alone, on a proper level for a 911, you could drop $1k or more.
The big issue is the motor in my belief. If you had a sound motor, you have body repair skills to go with mechanical skills and you basically got the car for next to free, this project still could add up $ and time in a significant way. Throw the motor issue in, and I'd pass.
A "good" used SC motor has to cost in the $6-7k range these days, and you still have an unknown used motor.
If you did paint the car yourself, you could get by with $2500. But that much rust showing on a '77 is the tip of the iceberg-there are MANY hours of rust repair.
The fiddly item budget could easily be doubled to $3k or 4k. If you went through the brakes alone, on a proper level for a 911, you could drop $1k or more.
The big issue is the motor in my belief. If you had a sound motor, you have body repair skills to go with mechanical skills and you basically got the car for next to free, this project still could add up $ and time in a significant way. Throw the motor issue in, and I'd pass.
A "good" used SC motor has to cost in the $6-7k range these days, and you still have an unknown used motor.
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The $5K asking price is certainly tempting, but the work involved to get the car just to the level of 'rolling restoration' could very easily add an additional $10K not too mention the headaches involved with body work and inventorying 2 bad engines.
My best advice is to keep looking for one that's closer to being a runner. It doesn't have to be perfect, or even nice, but you'll be way better off in the long run with a $10K car that needs $5K worth of work.
My best advice is to keep looking for one that's closer to being a runner. It doesn't have to be perfect, or even nice, but you'll be way better off in the long run with a $10K car that needs $5K worth of work.
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