Anyone have a copy of "the used 911 story"
07-10-2002, 11:41 AM
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Anyone have a copy of "the used 911 story"
I went to Barnes and Noble and they do not have, nor can get me a copy of Peter Zimmerman's the Used 911 Story. Does anyone have a copy they would like to sell to me?
07-10-2002, 01:00 PM
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I re-purchased the book...it is around here somewhere. I'll send it to you if I can find it. Here is a quick recap of what you will read. Bottom line, if you are going to buy an early 911, beware of rust and consider the long wheelbase car that was availablre in 1969. Stay away from the 74 to 77 cars, especially the 76 and 77 cars because of the many problems that occured with the magnesium engines. The problems were precipitated because of excess heat produced by the anti-smog system. This lead to pulled studs, and leaky cases. Getting a non-retrofitted
75 to 77 car back to a reliable state can be an expensive proposition.
The 78 to 83SC is a bulletproof car, the 84 to 86 Carrera car is good, there were some possible valve guide problems. The 87 to 89 cars were an improvement with the G-50 transmission and hydraulic clutch. The C2 and C4 (964) cars from 89 to 94 are good...the early models had some cylinder sealing problems as well as a tiny belt withinn the distributor that could fail leaving you with spark to only six plugs, not 12 (The 964 is a twin plug engine). The 964 was available in 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive.
The 92 (964) Cup Car is outstanding...they now sell for about $75,000, and there are less than 50 of them in the US.
I don't recall what Pete wrote about the 993 cars...but since I have one, in my experience, they are super cars, the best of the oil cooled breed. The motor is based on the 964, with improved exhaust and with the 96 and later cars, Varioram..an intake manifold that expands and contracts the runners to deliver optimal torque and HP. They also have a 6 speed transmission.
The 993 cars were available in 2 wheel drive, and an improved (over the 964) 4 wheel drive. There are also the S models, wide body with the Turbo body, sans tail. The 4 wheel drive was delivered only in the Carrera S configuration.
They 993 cars were delivered with a fill coil over suspension system, super brakes with ABS, a very trick rear suspension, air conditioning that works, etc. Also note the Carrera 4 S cars came with Big Red brakes.
The 95 cars had a potential wiring loom problem and there have been some hydraulic clutch problems. However please note that the 1995 cars are On Board Diagnostics) OBDI cars...you can chip them. With the advent of Varioram in 1996, the cars were "upgraded" to OBDII systems. Chipping the car becomes much more expensive, and "Big Brother", hooking into your OBDII system, can actually determine car driving history. As an example, using Porsche Dealer OBDII diagnostics, it can be determined how many times the car was at red line.
On the 993 cars, since the tub below the roof line has been reinforced for added stiffness, there can be a problem with front and rear windows squeeking. Also on the 95 cars, they need a modification to accept 18" wheels, a mod that was included on the 96 to 98 cars. In closing on the 993, there are two high performance Euro models, a source for 993 parts. These cars are the 993 RS (Rennsport) and the 993 RS CS (Club Sport), and were delivered with trick suspension, 3.8 motors, lightweight interiors, aerodynamic aids, 18" 3 piece wheels, totally awesome cars, that were not imported into the US. I believe they were only made in 1995 with a few made in 1996.
The 996 cars are technically awesome with water cooling, 4 vales per cylinder, variable valve timing, etc., and you get a cup holder! THe interior is Lexus like, and does not resemble the earlier cars, from 993 to the past. One concern I would have with the 996, it does not have a dry sump as did all 911 Porsche cars since 1965. This means that uder high G side loads, the engine can become oil starved...not good. There is a Porsche Motorsports North America fix for this...it does void your warranty.
In closing, Pete recommends against "Gray Market" Euro cars that were coming into the US in the 80s. He feels they have generally been driven hards, and may have been exposed to lots of salty roads, and that maintenance histories are seldom available with these cars. Personally, I like the Euro cars, commencing with the 77 3.0 car. This car is a rocketship. The 84 to 89 Euro Carreras are very quick with added HP..however, these high HP cars do prefer good gas, with higher than the 91 octane gas we can get at the pump in California. As an added bonus, the Euro cars are lighter, and some come without sun roofs. Less weight = more HP!!!
Well it is off to the "salt mines" for today, a 100 mile drive from here. The good news, I get to drive the 993 car since wifey took the Windstar (Co Car and free).
Also note this months Porsche Panorama has a complete history of technical improvements in the 911 car since 1965 to the late 80's.
<img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />
75 to 77 car back to a reliable state can be an expensive proposition.
The 78 to 83SC is a bulletproof car, the 84 to 86 Carrera car is good, there were some possible valve guide problems. The 87 to 89 cars were an improvement with the G-50 transmission and hydraulic clutch. The C2 and C4 (964) cars from 89 to 94 are good...the early models had some cylinder sealing problems as well as a tiny belt withinn the distributor that could fail leaving you with spark to only six plugs, not 12 (The 964 is a twin plug engine). The 964 was available in 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive.
The 92 (964) Cup Car is outstanding...they now sell for about $75,000, and there are less than 50 of them in the US.
I don't recall what Pete wrote about the 993 cars...but since I have one, in my experience, they are super cars, the best of the oil cooled breed. The motor is based on the 964, with improved exhaust and with the 96 and later cars, Varioram..an intake manifold that expands and contracts the runners to deliver optimal torque and HP. They also have a 6 speed transmission.
The 993 cars were available in 2 wheel drive, and an improved (over the 964) 4 wheel drive. There are also the S models, wide body with the Turbo body, sans tail. The 4 wheel drive was delivered only in the Carrera S configuration.
They 993 cars were delivered with a fill coil over suspension system, super brakes with ABS, a very trick rear suspension, air conditioning that works, etc. Also note the Carrera 4 S cars came with Big Red brakes.
The 95 cars had a potential wiring loom problem and there have been some hydraulic clutch problems. However please note that the 1995 cars are On Board Diagnostics) OBDI cars...you can chip them. With the advent of Varioram in 1996, the cars were "upgraded" to OBDII systems. Chipping the car becomes much more expensive, and "Big Brother", hooking into your OBDII system, can actually determine car driving history. As an example, using Porsche Dealer OBDII diagnostics, it can be determined how many times the car was at red line.
On the 993 cars, since the tub below the roof line has been reinforced for added stiffness, there can be a problem with front and rear windows squeeking. Also on the 95 cars, they need a modification to accept 18" wheels, a mod that was included on the 96 to 98 cars. In closing on the 993, there are two high performance Euro models, a source for 993 parts. These cars are the 993 RS (Rennsport) and the 993 RS CS (Club Sport), and were delivered with trick suspension, 3.8 motors, lightweight interiors, aerodynamic aids, 18" 3 piece wheels, totally awesome cars, that were not imported into the US. I believe they were only made in 1995 with a few made in 1996.
The 996 cars are technically awesome with water cooling, 4 vales per cylinder, variable valve timing, etc., and you get a cup holder! THe interior is Lexus like, and does not resemble the earlier cars, from 993 to the past. One concern I would have with the 996, it does not have a dry sump as did all 911 Porsche cars since 1965. This means that uder high G side loads, the engine can become oil starved...not good. There is a Porsche Motorsports North America fix for this...it does void your warranty.
In closing, Pete recommends against "Gray Market" Euro cars that were coming into the US in the 80s. He feels they have generally been driven hards, and may have been exposed to lots of salty roads, and that maintenance histories are seldom available with these cars. Personally, I like the Euro cars, commencing with the 77 3.0 car. This car is a rocketship. The 84 to 89 Euro Carreras are very quick with added HP..however, these high HP cars do prefer good gas, with higher than the 91 octane gas we can get at the pump in California. As an added bonus, the Euro cars are lighter, and some come without sun roofs. Less weight = more HP!!!
Well it is off to the "salt mines" for today, a 100 mile drive from here. The good news, I get to drive the 993 car since wifey took the Windstar (Co Car and free).
Also note this months Porsche Panorama has a complete history of technical improvements in the 911 car since 1965 to the late 80's.
<img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />
07-10-2002, 01:31 PM
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Great re-cap Martin.
I have my car serviced at Redline in Santa Monica and that is Pete's shop. He has retired, but Mark has copies for sure. If you want one let me know and I will give you the info.
I have my car serviced at Redline in Santa Monica and that is Pete's shop. He has retired, but Mark has copies for sure. If you want one let me know and I will give you the info.
