Backdating a 3.2 Carrera
09-06-2012, 10:50 PM
#16
Nicest 3.2 backdate that I have ever seen
Here is a nice example that started out as an 86 3.2 Carrera. Bumpers were removed, brand new early 911 front bulkhead was welded in for the hood latch. Steel fenders and hood from a 72 were installed. Getty fiberglass ducktail and bumpers. Was completed in 2010. Oslo Blue from 1962 along with Weidman RSR finish on the wheels.
The first picture is the car as it was originally, circa 2004.
The first picture is the car as it was originally, circa 2004.
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09-06-2012, 11:23 PM
#17
Burning Brakes
^^^^^^Damn, that 86 was a real nice car to begin with. But the backdate is flawless. I think I've seen that car...was that at the Concour's D'Elegance at Arapahoe CC?
09-06-2012, 11:51 PM
#18
Yes, Concours at Arapahoe Community College
Both photos are at the Concours held in June, 2004 when the car was black and this year in its RS Tribute prime !
09-07-2012, 01:54 AM
#20
My car is the 911E in the background
GTgears,
My car is the Albert Blue 911 E in the background next to the red 944. I saw the beginning of this thread about backdating a 3.2 Carrera and just had to chime in about how well it can be done, eg. the osloblau RS Tribute.
My car is the Albert Blue 911 E in the background next to the red 944. I saw the beginning of this thread about backdating a 3.2 Carrera and just had to chime in about how well it can be done, eg. the osloblau RS Tribute.
09-07-2012, 12:32 PM
#21
Nordschleife Master
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Just an FYI for folks, but the "new" car is a '67 912. I've decided to trade power for style. I missed owning a SWB car and found someone willing to trade cars with me. And at roughly 600lbs lighter than my Carrera, I think I'll make due. My first Porsche was a 914 and my last SWB car was a '68 911T, so I am well versed in the whole need to carry speed for them to go...
09-07-2012, 10:15 PM
#22
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I'll still come to the C'n'C events, and would be glad to offer any advice/experience that I gained from the project. It sounds like you've got yourself a good donor car to do it with. You'll want an engine with more power though
. My car ended up around 2350 lbs. and is very peppy with the stock 3.2 motor. And driving between Denver and SLC for the PCA parade, it got 38 mpg.
09-08-2012, 01:14 AM
#23
Late Porkchops
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Jack:
Could I please inquire as to what the range of that cost was to do it correctly?
Your car and Daves car above are absolutely great . And 2350 Lbs -
I am always thinking about a 930. But if I could have a 3.2 with a little extra muscle in it, some weight off of it, and this look , to go along with my 951.... well I can say there would not ever be a Cayman parked in my garage. Or anything else for that matter.
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09-08-2012, 05:33 PM
#24
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Yeah, that's me! I'm Porschenut over on Pelican. That was a very rewarding project (with its agonizing moments) and I'm very glad to have done it. It's with both joy and sadness that I will be passing the keys along to a new owner soon!
I'll still come to the C'n'C events, and would be glad to offer any advice/experience that I gained from the project. It sounds like you've got yourself a good donor car to do it with. You'll want an engine with more power though. My car ended up around 2350 lbs. and is very peppy with the stock 3.2 motor. And driving between Denver and SLC for the PCA parade, it got 38 mpg.
I'll still come to the C'n'C events, and would be glad to offer any advice/experience that I gained from the project. It sounds like you've got yourself a good donor car to do it with. You'll want an engine with more power though
. My car ended up around 2350 lbs. and is very peppy with the stock 3.2 motor. And driving between Denver and SLC for the PCA parade, it got 38 mpg.I will probably build some sort of 912R out of the new car. I can't help but tinker and modify all of them. I'll post a link over to the 912 forum for interested parties once I take delivery and start playing with it. Obviously one of the first things it will get is a proper close ratio 5spd gearbox with "traction control"...
09-09-2012, 11:32 AM
#25
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Jack:
Could I please inquire as to what the range of that cost was to do it correctly?
Your car and Daves car above are absolutely great . And 2350 Lbs -
I am always thinking about a 930. But if I could have a 3.2 with a little extra muscle in it, some weight off of it, and this look , to go along with my 951.... well I can say there would not ever be a Cayman parked in my garage. Or anything else for that matter.
Could I please inquire as to what the range of that cost was to do it correctly?
Your car and Daves car above are absolutely great . And 2350 Lbs -
I am always thinking about a 930. But if I could have a 3.2 with a little extra muscle in it, some weight off of it, and this look , to go along with my 951.... well I can say there would not ever be a Cayman parked in my garage. Or anything else for that matter.
Anyway, the total cost was in the $10-11K range and that was with he and I doing all the work except for having the 930 rear flares professionally seam welded. It took us over seven months to complete the project, working on it almost every day.
The front fenders were new take-off OEM 930 parts and were very pricey. The rear flares were new steel Dansk parts. The F&R bumpers were from TRE. The wheels started out as 16X7 Fuchs and were converted to 17's by TruDesign - $4K for the wheel conversion and new tires. I painted the car in my home workshop, the paint & materials cost (DuPont ChromaBase) was $1K. Every piece of rubber trim/weatherstrip and the sunroof seals were replaced with OEM Porsche parts - $1100 for that.
The ducktail spoiler, Recaro seats, RS door panels and carpet were already in place when the project began.
I would guess that if this work were done at a pro shop, you'd be looking at a $25K final bill, maybe more. There is a LOT of labor involved and you'll pay at least $10K for a nice glass-out refinish job alone.
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09-10-2012, 03:46 PM
#26
Late Porkchops
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^^^^^
Thank you Jack.
I am stuck in a Porsche time warp back in the 1980's. That style car, and color too, is the ONE for me . Or a 930. But I know the 930 is going to be more problems than one like yours. That is just a great Porsche !
Thank you Jack.
I am stuck in a Porsche time warp back in the 1980's. That style car, and color too, is the ONE for me . Or a 930. But I know the 930 is going to be more problems than one like yours. That is just a great Porsche !
09-10-2012, 04:13 PM
#27
Racer
we sell a 'long short' bonnet, g model type short inner with long 73 style outer to avoid any metal work on the front lock panel. we also do long/long to fit 73 style with the original early lock panel
regards mark
regards mark
09-10-2012, 05:33 PM
#28
Professor of Pending Projects
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The backdate was done on a pretty tight budget back in 2010 when my brother Don owned the car. I had purchased it in 2001, sold it to Don in 2006 and repurchased it in 2010 after the conversion was finished as his 'priorities changed', as they say...
Anyway, the total cost was in the $10-11K range and that was with he and I doing all the work except for having the 930 rear flares professionally seam welded. It took us over seven months to complete the project, working on it almost every day.
The front fenders were new take-off OEM 930 parts and were very pricey. The rear flares were new steel Dansk parts. The F&R bumpers were from TRE. The wheels started out as 16X7 Fuchs and were converted to 17's by TruDesign - $4K for the wheel conversion and new tires. I painted the car in my home workshop, the paint & materials cost (DuPont ChromaBase) was $1K. Every piece of rubber trim/weatherstrip and the sunroof seals were replaced with OEM Porsche parts - $1100 for that.
The ducktail spoiler, Recaro seats, RS door panels and carpet were already in place when the project began.
I would guess that if this work were done at a pro shop, you'd be looking at a $25K final bill, maybe more. There is a LOT of labor involved and you'll pay at least $10K for a nice glass-out refinish job alone.
Anyway, the total cost was in the $10-11K range and that was with he and I doing all the work except for having the 930 rear flares professionally seam welded. It took us over seven months to complete the project, working on it almost every day.
The front fenders were new take-off OEM 930 parts and were very pricey. The rear flares were new steel Dansk parts. The F&R bumpers were from TRE. The wheels started out as 16X7 Fuchs and were converted to 17's by TruDesign - $4K for the wheel conversion and new tires. I painted the car in my home workshop, the paint & materials cost (DuPont ChromaBase) was $1K. Every piece of rubber trim/weatherstrip and the sunroof seals were replaced with OEM Porsche parts - $1100 for that.
The ducktail spoiler, Recaro seats, RS door panels and carpet were already in place when the project began.
I would guess that if this work were done at a pro shop, you'd be looking at a $25K final bill, maybe more. There is a LOT of labor involved and you'll pay at least $10K for a nice glass-out refinish job alone.
09-10-2012, 07:25 PM
#29
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Here it is as of now, except I have since removed the radio and installed a factory delete plate. The blue color is darker in person.
In the next month or so I'm having the seats and door panels redone in a better quality leatherette, with blue/black houndstooth seat inserts and the radio grilles will be gone.
The seats are Recaro SE's that were originally black. The local shop that did the pictured upholstery work turned out not to be the greatest. This time it will be done properly. A long-time Porsche friend and I are swapping cars and I want it to be 100% for him.
In the next month or so I'm having the seats and door panels redone in a better quality leatherette, with blue/black houndstooth seat inserts and the radio grilles will be gone.
The seats are Recaro SE's that were originally black. The local shop that did the pictured upholstery work turned out not to be the greatest. This time it will be done properly. A long-time Porsche friend and I are swapping cars and I want it to be 100% for him.
09-10-2012, 07:36 PM
#30
Professor of Pending Projects
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Here it is as of now, except I have since removed the radio and installed a factory delete plate. The blue color is darker in person.
In the next month or so I'm having the seats and door panels redone in a better quality leatherette, with blue/black houndstooth seat inserts and the radio grilles will be gone.
The seats are Recaro SE's that were originally black. The local shop that did the pictured upholstery work turned out not to be the greatest. This time it will be done properly. A long-time Porsche friend and I are swapping cars and I want it to be 100% for him.
In the next month or so I'm having the seats and door panels redone in a better quality leatherette, with blue/black houndstooth seat inserts and the radio grilles will be gone.
The seats are Recaro SE's that were originally black. The local shop that did the pictured upholstery work turned out not to be the greatest. This time it will be done properly. A long-time Porsche friend and I are swapping cars and I want it to be 100% for him.
