Lynx

I've been looking for a 87-89 911 and I came across this ad, the car is about 3 hours from me. Any info on problems, value etc. is much appreciated. Also options, what makes this car special, etc.

1980 Porsche 911 coupe, Limited Edition Weissach (15th Anniversary), Metallic Black on Tan Leather, extensive records, 113,000 miles, power heated mirrors, power windows, sunroof, 2000 996 wheels, comes with stock wheels/tires/steering wheel, etc.

ZAMIRZ

The SC Weissach is a nice car, and the fact that this one comes with the original wheels (which should have platinum metallic painted centers) and other equipment is a bonus. If a PPI checks out, offer him ~$11,000 usd and see what happens.

Doug&Julie

I think for a "collector" edition of any Porsche to have more of a "collector" value, it would have to be in true concours condition. This one, with at least the original equipment, would probably hold a little more value than the standard '80 SC with 115k miles, but since it's been pretty well used, probably not much.

If PPI checks out (and you like the car, of course!), ZAMIRZ estimate is probably just about right. If it's in really excellent condition, maybe worth a little more.

...but this is more my "educated opinion" more than based on any hard facts.

Good luck!

Stuttgart951

FYI - this is the second time someone has posted about this particular car for sale. I dont recall why it hasnt sold yet - the owner may think its worth much more than it actually is.

Lynx

You could be right...he's asking ~$18,000 US

Carrera GT

The price of these cars is just whatever someone happens to be willing to pay -- in 1999 or 2000, sure $18K would be a bargain, today, maybe half that number for a scrappy car that needs some tidy-up work.
I would suggest that a collector car (and the Weissach 15th Aniv Edition will make any Porschephile stop and look, so it's certaily in the history books of the marque) is worth a premium so long as it meets the following criteria:
* no accident damage beyond trivial panel touch-ups
* documentation, documentation and documentation
* complete and correct
* original (paint, options, mechanical)

If it happens to have low miles, low number of owners, be completely unrestored etc. then the price can double in a heartbeat.

If it's "the car" of the day (like the '73 Carrera RS is today) then people will pay a premium and tend to overloop the long-term rules of value I've suggested.

For me, I'd ask the owner to describe the car and address the bullet points of documentation, provenance and correctness. Assuming nothing derogatory, I'd go see it, even drive it a while, have it inspected by a professional familiar with the vintage and then, if the car has won me over, just pay whatever it takes to have it rusting in my garage instead of some other poor shmuck! Of course, sure, negotatiate and haggle for a sensible price. Lately, except for rare examples (356 Speedsters) it's a buyer's market, so don't fret over paying $2K too much, but don't get carried away and pay 50% too much if you'll regret it in a few years.
Also, subscribe to pmletter.com and those guys will be sure to have some advice on present offerings and real market value for most cars.

craig001

Lynx,

The car you are descibing isn't a collector's car. Too many miles. With 113k on the clock it's a driver with an interesting story. Yeah, it's a low production run car and comes with all the original pieces, but for $18k.... I would recommend a PPI to get a good idea of what you are looking at. The engine could be real close to rebuild time. I spent $255 for a PPI down in Austin. The owner was telling me that I was getting ripped off, but I got an honest (maybe too critical) evaluation. Got the guy down another $3500 and then the wife killed the deal because she felt that if he wasn't up front about the car originally, then what else was there. Six months later it's still a controversial conversation at our house.

RANDY P

Weissach it's basically a just a trim package. There's nothing really special except the colors and spoilers are installed. For $18K you're better off with a later car.

Price your offer accordingly.

rjp

Lynx

Cosmetic-only changes doesn't do a thing for me, performance improvements would. I will keep looking for a 87-89...thanks for all the comments.

Stuttgart951

Lynx, $18,000 will get you into G50 Carrera territory relatively easily these days.

Drew Theodore

I agree with everything said above. It is over priced for what you are getting, but the Weissach SC, with the 1970s Carrera spoiler and the matching painted wheels sure does look good. The piping around the seats does not do a lot for me.

Paul (Weissach 911)

I just bought an identical car in the Seattle area with 105k for 13.5k It is mechanically excellent with all upgrades except the pop off valve.Good documentation and paint. Will soon need tires (due to my driving style <img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" /> ) I bought a new OEM vinyl dash and will have a couple lumbar panels & steering wheel cover replaced. I will give it some mechanical upgrades ( exhaust,suspension,ect) but keep it stock in apearance & fully restorable in case I find 20k laying around somewhere <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> The guy doesn't want to sell the car if he's asking 18k.Your better off going to a newer Carrera.But I love the classic look of my Pcar second to none <img border="0" alt="[king]" title="" src="graemlins/r.gif" />