Thirty-something and have a 911?
05-25-2003, 02:50 AM
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I am a 20 year old student. I have had a few porsches already. one 1987 944, two 1974 914's and now i have a 1980 911. And i have loved all my cars, but for different reason. The 911 is by far the fastest of the bunch, but it is not nearly as nice on the interstate as the 944 was. With the quiter ride, Climate Control, and a little bit nicer ride it was a lot nicer to take on longer trips. Then the 914's were a blast to run around town in; being all go-kart like. But now I have the 911 and i would not trade it for a thing, maybe another 911, but i doubt it.
05-25-2003, 05:35 AM
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Pig4bil:
I must take exception to your comparison of the 928 to a Camaro. If you have spent considerable time in or behind the wheel of both cars, I doubt you would make such a comparison. Apples to oranges. Drive a Camaro across the country at triple digit speeds for a few hours and then make that claim. I don't mean to start a rukus here, and respect the fact that your opinion may differ.
A Camaro is not in the same league , and lacks the poise of the 928, which was conceived 25 years ago.
I will agree that 928 repairs can be extremely costly unless you can do some of the work yourself. For that reason, I recommended a PPI before committing to purchase. When I finally found mine, I had spent mucho hundreds of dollars on PPIs on cars all over the country. I don't regret a dime of that money. If a buyer can find a reasonably MAINTAINED car for a reasonable price, and expect to spend a bit on routine items over the years, he will have found a bargain for the performance available. If that buyer doesn't have the budget for that car, that's a different matter. For $10,000 to $12,000 or less (actually much less for 16 valve cars in good condition) and a little luck and diligence, a buyer can find a machine that will embarass a Camaro (IMO) in many respects, unless you regard off-the-line to 40 mph times and marginal brakes the ultimate test of a "grand touring" machine. I don't, and I don't care about impressing the neighbors or their teenage children.
I still advise driving the car of your consideration for a couple of hours outside the city and then decide. And do it in foul weather too, if you can.
I must take exception to your comparison of the 928 to a Camaro. If you have spent considerable time in or behind the wheel of both cars, I doubt you would make such a comparison. Apples to oranges. Drive a Camaro across the country at triple digit speeds for a few hours and then make that claim. I don't mean to start a rukus here, and respect the fact that your opinion may differ.
A Camaro is not in the same league , and lacks the poise of the 928, which was conceived 25 years ago.
I will agree that 928 repairs can be extremely costly unless you can do some of the work yourself. For that reason, I recommended a PPI before committing to purchase. When I finally found mine, I had spent mucho hundreds of dollars on PPIs on cars all over the country. I don't regret a dime of that money. If a buyer can find a reasonably MAINTAINED car for a reasonable price, and expect to spend a bit on routine items over the years, he will have found a bargain for the performance available. If that buyer doesn't have the budget for that car, that's a different matter. For $10,000 to $12,000 or less (actually much less for 16 valve cars in good condition) and a little luck and diligence, a buyer can find a machine that will embarass a Camaro (IMO) in many respects, unless you regard off-the-line to 40 mph times and marginal brakes the ultimate test of a "grand touring" machine. I don't, and I don't care about impressing the neighbors or their teenage children.
I still advise driving the car of your consideration for a couple of hours outside the city and then decide. And do it in foul weather too, if you can.
05-25-2003, 06:03 AM
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Camaro and 928. No comparison. There are few cars in the same league as the 928. The only cars that quickly come to mind are the Mercedes 500SL, BMW 8 series, Ferrari 400I, and the Ferrari 456GT. Those three cars are about utmost safety, performance over long distances, luxury and refinement. Basically I consider them to be land bound Learjets. Having owned 928's, driven 850's and 400i's, while also spending time driving my mother's 500SL, I can safely say that those cars are a different breed than the Camaro.
05-25-2003, 11:13 AM
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Well, my 928 is a sheer pleasure and it doesn't break the bank account either. It is important to find a well maintained one because parts are expensive. But, these are rock solid machines with engines that will go forever. I've owned my 83S for4 years now and probably spend roughly $500/year on general maintenance (which I do myself along with a set of factory manuals). It turns heads, is a great ride and just one heck-of-a-car for the money. It is a typically over-engineered german machine that is an exotic that you can use as a daily driver with no worry. It's a porsche and has all the quality and longevity that the other models have! I know this is a 911 forum but I get alot of respect from my 911 buddies when I show up in the 928...they flock to it!
Also, for the sheer seat of the pants fun..I wouldn't get rid of my 911 for anything. But, since I travel about 100 miles a day to and from work via an interstate...i usually take the 928! Oh, in the work parking lot..all the other cool cars always park around me when i drive it!
Jim
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Also, for the sheer seat of the pants fun..I wouldn't get rid of my 911 for anything. But, since I travel about 100 miles a day to and from work via an interstate...i usually take the 928! Oh, in the work parking lot..all the other cool cars always park around me when i drive it!
Jim
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05-25-2003, 11:26 AM
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i'm 31 years old and a physician - usually hang out on the 944 board.
couple of observations:
1. wow, i'm impressed that most of the guys on this board have owned various other porsches besides the 911
2. most of you share the same enthusiasm for great old cars and same disdain for boring mundane new cars that i feel
i will graduate from residency in a year. plan on making my current 944S a track car and picking up a 964 or maybe carrera and using it for daily driver activities. who knows, maybe the track bug will bite and i'll use the 911 for track days
couple of observations:
1. wow, i'm impressed that most of the guys on this board have owned various other porsches besides the 911
2. most of you share the same enthusiasm for great old cars and same disdain for boring mundane new cars that i feel
i will graduate from residency in a year. plan on making my current 944S a track car and picking up a 964 or maybe carrera and using it for daily driver activities. who knows, maybe the track bug will bite and i'll use the 911 for track days
05-25-2003, 12:35 PM
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Pil,
I am looking at a career in the Pharma industry, and have a couple of questions. Would it be possible to write you an email?
Regards
James Dixon
jdixon@shaw.ca
I am looking at a career in the Pharma industry, and have a couple of questions. Would it be possible to write you an email?
Regards
James Dixon
jdixon@shaw.ca
05-25-2003, 06:42 PM
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I'm a designer and I turn 33 in July. I bought my first Pcar ('88 944 n/a) when I was 23 and owned that for just over five years. Bought my first 911 ('72 911T) when I was 28. Bought an '84 Turbo Look 911 when I was 29. Sold that/bought a '99 Boxster when I was 30. Had to sell that at 31...drove a Subie (while still having the '72 T) for about a year before getting an '88 911 last spring. Sold that this spring (along with my Subie) for another '99 Boxster.
In many ways I miss either of the Carreras, but for me the Boxster is the best all around choice. First and foremost, it's a Porsche. Second, it's a convertible. And finally, when I just need an easy daily driver, it can do that very well too.
But I still have that '72. Probably never let go of that one!
Cheers!
I'm a designer and I turn 33 in July. I bought my first Pcar ('88 944 n/a) when I was 23 and owned that for just over five years. Bought my first 911 ('72 911T) when I was 28. Bought an '84 Turbo Look 911 when I was 29. Sold that/bought a '99 Boxster when I was 30. Had to sell that at 31...drove a Subie (while still having the '72 T) for about a year before getting an '88 911 last spring. Sold that this spring (along with my Subie) for another '99 Boxster.
In many ways I miss either of the Carreras, but for me the Boxster is the best all around choice. First and foremost, it's a Porsche. Second, it's a convertible. And finally, when I just need an easy daily driver, it can do that very well too.
But I still have that '72. Probably never let go of that one!
Cheers!
05-25-2003, 06:45 PM
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Oh...PS...I will ALWAYS have a car payment. I know, probably not smart, but I want to experience too many cars and don't have the cash in reserves. And when I'm done paying for this Boxster, you better believe I'll buy another Porsche. ..and try to keep the Boxster. I'm not worried about depreciation...I don't buy these cars as investments. I buy them to enjoy them!
05-25-2003, 06:49 PM
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Just turned 34 two weeks ago. Bought the 86 911 Cabriolet 4 weeks ago. Lost my job less than one week ago. The expensive apartment near the ocean may go...but the Porsche is gonna stay.
05-25-2003, 11:44 PM
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32 years old, own my cars, have a mortgage on my house, have 2 kids, a wife and a third kid on the way.
Am a Commodity Financier by profession.
Am a Commodity Financier by profession.
05-26-2003, 02:11 AM
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I am 38 and sell advertising for a television network. Had a hand me down 924 many years ago from dad. Bought a 964 cab last year with cash and bought a 993 C4S this past February with cash as well. I then sold the 964 a month later.
Same deal as many, have a mortgage, 2 kids and a wife to support. Planning to move to a nicer neighborhood in the near future which will put me back some but will alway keep the C4S.
Same deal as many, have a mortgage, 2 kids and a wife to support. Planning to move to a nicer neighborhood in the near future which will put me back some but will alway keep the C4S.
05-26-2003, 02:15 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ron_H:
<strong>Pig4bil:
I must take exception to your comparison of the 928 to a Camaro. If you have spent considerable time in or behind the wheel of both cars, I doubt you would make such a comparison. Apples to oranges. Drive a Camaro across the country at triple digit speeds for a few hours and then make that claim. I don't mean to start a rukus here, and respect the fact that your opinion may differ.
A Camaro is not in the same league , and lacks the poise of the 928, which was conceived 25 years ago. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">What a silly suggestion. Drive a Camaro (or anything else) across the country at triple digit speeds for a few hours and you land in jail. I have driven a Trans Am I used to own at triple digit speeds for 20 minutes or so. Very steady, very smooth, very solid. Yes, I've driven 928's too, once while I still owned the Trans Am. I never said a Camaro was a 928, I said a 928 drives a lot like a German Camaro. Which they do - very heavy, little body lean, smooth power steering, very torquey at low engine speeds which leads to easy wheelspin because of all the weight. It's a fun effortless way to go fast, but you're kidding yourself if you think it's a sports car like an early 911, 914, or 944.
OT: Harold, what is a "Commodity Financier"? I know how the futures pits works, and have traded them. A friend of mine owned a seat and did arb baskets, but I've never heard of a commodity financier.
<strong>Pig4bil:
I must take exception to your comparison of the 928 to a Camaro. If you have spent considerable time in or behind the wheel of both cars, I doubt you would make such a comparison. Apples to oranges. Drive a Camaro across the country at triple digit speeds for a few hours and then make that claim. I don't mean to start a rukus here, and respect the fact that your opinion may differ.
A Camaro is not in the same league , and lacks the poise of the 928, which was conceived 25 years ago. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">What a silly suggestion. Drive a Camaro (or anything else) across the country at triple digit speeds for a few hours and you land in jail. I have driven a Trans Am I used to own at triple digit speeds for 20 minutes or so. Very steady, very smooth, very solid. Yes, I've driven 928's too, once while I still owned the Trans Am. I never said a Camaro was a 928, I said a 928 drives a lot like a German Camaro. Which they do - very heavy, little body lean, smooth power steering, very torquey at low engine speeds which leads to easy wheelspin because of all the weight. It's a fun effortless way to go fast, but you're kidding yourself if you think it's a sports car like an early 911, 914, or 944.
OT: Harold, what is a "Commodity Financier"? I know how the futures pits works, and have traded them. A friend of mine owned a seat and did arb baskets, but I've never heard of a commodity financier.
05-26-2003, 05:16 AM
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32 yrs, advertising copywriter. I have an 1984 911 Carrera, which is my first Porsche and my own "toy". I've owed it for about 3 yrs and it is a great drive. For my girlfriend and 9 month daughter I have a 1996 MB 200T. However I'm considering to get an 80's 930 or a 964T, since I have always had a fascination with the blowed 911:s.
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05-26-2003, 10:26 AM
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Doug,
I LOVE LOVE LOVE "The Tomato"!! Never sell, it's such a classic! Although, have you checked out the latest "Excellence"? They have a narrow '73 with a RS spec Varioram 993 dropped in it. 300hp and 2,200 lbs WOW, butchery but tempting.
Take care,
Lefty
I LOVE LOVE LOVE "The Tomato"!! Never sell, it's such a classic! Although, have you checked out the latest "Excellence"? They have a narrow '73 with a RS spec Varioram 993 dropped in it. 300hp and 2,200 lbs WOW, butchery but tempting.
Take care,
Lefty
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