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Old 09-29-2010, 04:47 AM
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The VERY first thing I'd do is to make sure you are getting full throttle when the pedal is depressed to the floor. You'd be amazed at how many cars do not have WOT due to wear & tear.
Old 09-29-2010, 10:02 AM
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Damn I love this forum almost as much as penthouse. This is all great stuff.. I am a road driver, I like twisties and quick acceleration. I want to attend as many DE as I can get to. I realize that I need to learn to drive this car. I liked the chassis improvement suggestions a lot. I'll probably do that and proceed with exhaust and chip improvements. Thank you all.
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OK Steve, I'll bite! What is WOT and why are you up at 2:47 in the morning?
Old 09-29-2010, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 79 Euro
OK Steve, I'll bite! What is WOT and why are you up at 2:47 in the morning?
wide open throttle (particularly thrilling with forced induction!)
Old 09-29-2010, 01:03 PM
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He's on the west coast.
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
The VERY first thing I'd do is to make sure you are getting full throttle when the pedal is depressed to the floor. You'd be amazed at how many cars do not have WOT due to wear & tear.
Great suggestion. All those pivot/balcrank bushings are getting old.
It's always a good idea to start with the basics, and new pedal bushings are the first rite of passage for any 911 owner.
Old 09-29-2010, 01:25 PM
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Lots of great advice here. I will only add that there is a nice little surge with these engines at about 4000 RPM. Downshift and use your gears if you want some snap.

These cars are capable of 0-60 in less than six seconds if you keep them on the boil. That is bone stock.
Old 09-29-2010, 01:35 PM
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Also consider that in many cars you will be going through three gears to hit 60 or 70. Your 911 will hit 70 in second and 100 in third. Not as much rapid action drama to go fast. One of the really great things about chip and an exhaust is that not only do you get a little extra shove, it also SOUNDS faster and more powerful. That's fun.

I remember thinking my old 944S wasn't really that fast, just before I got pulled over for doing 89 in a 55. Try telling it to the LEO, and see how it flies. Someone recently posted that 80 was the new 60.

How very true.
Old 09-29-2010, 03:01 PM
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On the 3.2 carreras there is a WOT switch - you have to make sure that switch is engaged so that your DME knows to put the throttle and fuel maps in WOT (wide open throttle)

As Steve Weiner commented - you'd be amazed at the amount of Carreras that no longer engage that switch - it's good for an additional 20-30 HP
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Originally Posted by 79 Euro
What is WOT and why are you up at 2:47 in the morning?
Wide Open Throttle (throttle blade against the stop).

I do work long hours,.....
Old 09-29-2010, 05:21 PM
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I don't have my Bentley handy...where's the WOT switch and how do I test it?

I previously had my wife floor the gas pedal to see how much play I had in the throttle cable. I'm assuming a little play is needed to prevent jack-rabbit starts, but how much is too much?

Thanks
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The left of the throttle body. You don't need play to avoid jackrabbit starts.
Old 09-30-2010, 05:21 PM
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Steve Wong chip
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:39 AM
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All good stuff. The winter projects are lineing up now. Throttle body, WOT switch, Steve Wong, SSI, Chassis, etc, etc..Anyone have a couple thousand $$ laying around that they can send me. Haha...
Great stuff guys ...
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Damn I love this forum almost as much as penthouse.
talane,
since I see you also have a 928 I suspect you also read the 928 forum. for those who do not, many of those guys have avatars bordering on pornography.


the car pics are great too!

I expect I may get some flaming for my reply as it is a little OT and LONG.

regarding your question. I see you commented you intend to attend DE, so may I suggest you are not asking the correct question.

if you intend to go to DE, I would advise two things, one already mentioned.

first make sure your car is rock solid. a stock 911 is an incredible car. the first 'upgrades' you should make are track brake pads and high temp brake fluid. next I would suggest turbo tie rod ends, a good alignment/corner balance, and 'good' high perf tires. I would suggest you get some track time before moving up to R compound tires.

second, you need a good helmet that fits YOU properly and consider a 'hans' type device. I got the R3 before harnesses as it will work with OEM 3 point. and I now have seats/harnesses/cage.

if you are going to the track, be as safe as you can. get seat time, develop your skills, and then attack performance upgrades based on what it is about the car you want to improve most and budget.

speaking of budget. realize going to the track often is expensive AND will drive up your 'maintenance' costs rapidly. tires, brake pads/rotors, bake fluid flush, etc. I am in the process of finalizing an order with Steve Weiner for all of the above and some more. all part of the sport.

the above comments involve the old adage, "dont do as I did, do as I say." once I started going to DE, I HAD to get better tires, wheels, HP, suspension upgrades to go faster. I was sniveling to an instructor several years ago I needed better <everything>. his reply was "your car is not the problem, you are the problem. first learn to drive." it turned out he is right.

and after spending quite a bit of $$$ on performance improvements, I finally focused on safety a few years ago. I do hope I never get to test any of it. but as my skills improved, I was driving faster and pushing the car's handling envelope. and seeing a few incidents caused me to realise how important safety is.

I do enjoy and take advantage of the performance upgrades I have made. but as you do pursue upgrades, make sure they accumulate in the correct order. too often we, my self included, go about it in an ad hoc manner.

in addition to reading this and other forums, start working with a supplier who really knows the track environement and 911s. let them get to know you and help you determine and execute a plan, based on your driving skills. asking questions on forums will get all kinds of responses, including my extended diatribe.

a DE instructor I have come to appreciate consistently explains to students that you can throw a lot of $$ into your car to go faster, or you can learn to drive your car to its limits. as your skills approach the limits of your car, then make improvements that are compatible with your skills and the next step you want to master.

as you read these posts, you may notice the suggestions treat 'performance' in a broad scope than just added HP. acceleration, braking, and handling are all components to a multi-variable equation. and keeping the changes in balance is also very important to the 'safety' quotient.

all of the ideas in this thread are worthy suggestions. best of luck, enjoy, and be safe.


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