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Old 08-05-2010, 08:20 PM
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Default Carrera sitting for 9 years! Need help!

Hi all,

Just picked up an 1986 3.2 that has been sitting in a garage for almost 9 years. Super excited, but before I start it, I was going to drain and replace all the Gasoline, Engine oil, Transmission Fluid and the brake fluid.

Is there anything else that I should be aware of before starting it up?

Btw, appreciate all the great stuff I've been able to read and learn from here!

Thanks

Danny
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Something that I discovered when I found my car was that what appeared to me to be "un-molested" in reality was "un-maintained"...

You will want to do the fluids, including draining the fuel tank. The distributor cap is going to collect all your wash water and short out after every bath until replaced, and on and on.

Should be nothing you can't handle. They love to leak so don't panic when that starts.

Pictures are required.

Welcome, you are gonna love it.
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fire extinguisher at the ready?
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Danny, welcome to the forum. New DME relay, change out the tires if they are over 5 yrs old and add techron fuel system cleaner to the first tank of fresh gas. I am a 911 newbie and you will get additional expert advice here. We would love to see some pics and get some details about your car.

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Originally Posted by mitch9000
fire extinguisher at the ready?
Make that two. Start it outside.

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Old 08-05-2010, 09:49 PM
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I have a confession, I let my 84 carrier 3.2 set for 11 years, owned it sense 88. While I had some one do the work, I didn't even try to start it, they did replace all the fluids, replaced the fuel pump, cleaned the injectors even before they tried to start it. They said it smoked like a factory for some time. Let it warm up for some time, nursed it around the parking lot a few times. The clutch was stuck and once it was running stronger they could goose it some to break free the clutch. Now I have been upgrading things the last couple of years and the car is mostly used for the track now. Only has 47k miles on it.
I think I was lucking and wish you the best.
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Originally Posted by ninenine3
Hi all,

Just picked up an 1986 3.2 that has been sitting in a garage for almost 9 years. Super excited, but before I start it, I was going to drain and replace all the Gasoline, Engine oil, Transmission Fluid and the brake fluid.

Is there anything else that I should be aware of before starting it up?

Btw, appreciate all the great stuff I've been able to read and learn from here!

Thanks

Danny
Congrats!!!! Tell us more about the car!

How many miles?

My car, an '88, had been sitting (apparently) from 1990 until 1997 when I bought it. It had 6800 miles on it and 1990 license plate tabs.

We will never know for sure if this dis-use was a contributing factor, but my car is one of the 3.2s that encountered what Bruce Anderson calls "premature valve guide wear". I had the entire top end re-done right after I bought it as a result (i was able to convince Porsche and the dealer to pay 2/3 the cost!).

In the end it worked out great for me because I used this as an opportunity to replace a bunch of rubber components and get the throw-out fork on the G50 replaced (there was a factory bulletin on that). Read the story here: http://kindel.com/porsche/Valves.htm

So paying close attention to your valve guides may be advisable. If you hear valve ticking (my symptom) and have excessive oil consumption (I didn't have this problem) you may need new valve guides....
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I'd flush the brake fluid and check the entire brake system carefully before driving past a driveway or parking lot.
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+1 on the brake system, you need to be able to stop. I would flush out the old fuel and of course change the oil and brake fluid. Tires need to be replaced
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as far as the brakes go.... even a flush wont tell you if the calipers are stuck/froze... I would jack it up and rotate the wheels, check each one for free wheeling and stopping

might consider a NEW battery so you avoid any "issues" from an old one

with fresh gas, maybe open a line at the rear and pump some thru into a bucket to flush the lines... remember there is old gas in the lines too

new tires for sure

pics
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I second that

Originally Posted by mitch9000
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just to be extra careful, I'd pull the plugs & pour a bit of Marvel Mystery into each cyl.
next day, do that again & then hand rotate the motor for 5-10 revs. I'd install new plugs, too.
I'd have a friend or two (one w/ fire extinguisher, one w/ beer, & hopefully one of 'em knowing something 'bout 3.2s) there when I first cranked it. have fun!
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We need pictures!
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Appreciate the warm welcome!!

A little bit about the car, its got a 120K miles, Black on Black and the interior is in really great shape. Paint can use a little TLC, but I'm looking to learn by going to some local DE's, so i'm not too worried about the exterior just yet. Just want to get everything mechanical in order.

Are you guys serious about the fire extinguisher?!?! Will have one armed and ready. Great points about the gas lines and brakes.

While draining the oil, should I also assume there is fluid in the oil cooler as well and should drain that out?

I'm just gathering all the fluids now.( Swepco 201 80w/90 for the trans, and Brad Penn 20w/50 for the motor oil. ATE super blue for the brakes.) Based on what I've read here, I should be good with these, right?

Thanks again for the welcome, and pics will be up soon.

Danny
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Originally Posted by ninenine3
While draining the oil, should I also assume there is fluid in the oil cooler as well and should drain that out?
My opinion is no, don't bother. Others may differ. If the oil cooler plumbing is solid and not leaking, I'd rather not touch it than risk having difficulty getting a joint to seal well again and introducing new leaks. I would have enough oil and filters for at least 2 and maybe 3 changes. Change the oil immediately before starting for the first time. Get it started and fully warmed up so that fresh oil circulates through the cooler. Touch the oil cooler and return lines to see if hot oil is flowing through. Once the old oil is flushed from the cooler plumbing, do another oil change. If it were me, I would probably do a third quick oil change after a few days of driving it. If you don't want to blow your supply of liquid gold Brad Penn, use "cheap" oil for the first two changes.

Congrats on the 911. Good luck with the first crank, and I would say definitely be worried about old rubber fuel lines.

Brett


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