Which is the best 911?
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Yeah, sorry about missing the first 10 years
I also failed to mention differences that happen every year of the same model too. Porsche could never sit still, always upgrading their cars every year of production in small ways.
I would of course mention the Carrera RS but I very much doubt the average person would want one, they are very loud and raw beasts, designed for track use not street use.
Or you could just put a 3.6 in an early car
Sam.
I also failed to mention differences that happen every year of the same model too. Porsche could never sit still, always upgrading their cars every year of production in small ways.
I would of course mention the Carrera RS but I very much doubt the average person would want one, they are very loud and raw beasts, designed for track use not street use.
Or you could just put a 3.6 in an early car
Sam.
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When you ask a Porsche 911 owner this question...the answer should be the one he/she owns! My Porsche is not the fastest, best looking, most expensive, etc. All I can say is I love my Porsche 911 and it's the best because I care for it and know every inch, ding, scratch, and engine sound like the back of my hand. Nothing better than a loved 911!
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It's got to be a 1980 911SC Sunroof Coupe, Metallic Black over Cork, full leather, completely stock. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by 911Porsche:
<strong>HI Jack
Is that photo "original" - it seems to me out of aspect ratio - it looks more like an E-type jag.
Here is a similar model, and it looks definitely more beefed up.
This is an early, short wheelbase car. Jack's is a later, long wheelbase car.
Hope this helps.
cheers if you can clarify this</strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>HI Jack
Is that photo "original" - it seems to me out of aspect ratio - it looks more like an E-type jag.
Here is a similar model, and it looks definitely more beefed up.
This is an early, short wheelbase car. Jack's is a later, long wheelbase car.
Hope this helps.
cheers if you can clarify this</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Like everyone has said, it's a broad question. You're talikng 'project car', so that means that you either have a lot of time and money for parts on hand, and also are VERY good with tools, precision techniques, and have the patience to: a) listen to more experienced people and learn; b) read up and research on your particular 911;
c) can adapt to doing things very different from what you are used to, as German engineering while efficient and smart, can be tricky to understand and a real PITA to work on until you get the hang of it.
Personally, I have been all over American and Japanese cars/trucks (as far as changing a frame on a mid 70's K% Blazer in 4 weekends), but take my Porsche to a pro, mostly because my spinal problems keep from bending over the engine for very long, but also because I don't have a boatload of metric and specialty tools, nor extra garage space to properly lift and move around the car, not to mention the patience to have it up on stands torn apart for long periods, since I prefer to do a job start to finish if it's complicated, and these cars are complicated.
Best of luck with whatever you do. In broad terms, the 'best' 911 is the newest one you you can afford, unless you live in a dry area where the lightweight 911's can be found with a lot of rust/rot/ravages of time, although they feature far less in creature comforts, if you want the 'sports car experience', and the more 'pure 911' experience a pre '74 might be your ticket. If you have $15-20,000 for the car (to start with), I would recommend an 87-89.
c) can adapt to doing things very different from what you are used to, as German engineering while efficient and smart, can be tricky to understand and a real PITA to work on until you get the hang of it.
Personally, I have been all over American and Japanese cars/trucks (as far as changing a frame on a mid 70's K% Blazer in 4 weekends), but take my Porsche to a pro, mostly because my spinal problems keep from bending over the engine for very long, but also because I don't have a boatload of metric and specialty tools, nor extra garage space to properly lift and move around the car, not to mention the patience to have it up on stands torn apart for long periods, since I prefer to do a job start to finish if it's complicated, and these cars are complicated.
Best of luck with whatever you do. In broad terms, the 'best' 911 is the newest one you you can afford, unless you live in a dry area where the lightweight 911's can be found with a lot of rust/rot/ravages of time, although they feature far less in creature comforts, if you want the 'sports car experience', and the more 'pure 911' experience a pre '74 might be your ticket. If you have $15-20,000 for the car (to start with), I would recommend an 87-89.
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Hey Jack,
You're not the only fan of the early model cars.
My old '66 911, owned for 10 years--most of it in parallel with my '84 Carrera or '91 C2. Finally sold in '98 .... just one too many money pits in the family. If I was a richer man with a bigger garage, never would have sold that car. Such an elegant machine.
Jack .... admire what you're doing with your '73. Understand you even have plans to add AC. Of course, when choosing which money pit had to go, I could have kept the '66 and sold the '91. But--understatement of the year--the '91 makes for a much more comfortable daily driver. And, of course, the '91 is just a wee bit faster. In other words, the '66 wasn't nearly the performance car the '91 is (no, my '66 didn't have a 3.6L engine ). But man, did that car sound good .
You're not the only fan of the early model cars.
My old '66 911, owned for 10 years--most of it in parallel with my '84 Carrera or '91 C2. Finally sold in '98 .... just one too many money pits in the family. If I was a richer man with a bigger garage, never would have sold that car. Such an elegant machine.
Jack .... admire what you're doing with your '73. Understand you even have plans to add AC. Of course, when choosing which money pit had to go, I could have kept the '66 and sold the '91. But--understatement of the year--the '91 makes for a much more comfortable daily driver. And, of course, the '91 is just a wee bit faster. In other words, the '66 wasn't nearly the performance car the '91 is (no, my '66 didn't have a 3.6L engine ). But man, did that car sound good .
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Most points have been covered already so I will just throw in my personal story and 2 cents.
I look for something with low production numbers and a little unique. I really wanted a 73 RS but couldn't afford a real one so I started looking for a replica. While looking I learned about a unique version called the Club Sport through a POC member and Porsche Salesperson who has a European one. IMO the car meets all the criteria of a great Porsche and they were produced from 87-89...what many consider some of best years. With only 340 produced, 28 imported to North America and a lot of special features that I could list for you later (e-mail me)
The only problem is finding one....
71-73 911 S, T or E's are great as well as any 993....preferrably a C2S/C4S or if you are lucky a TT.
I look for something with low production numbers and a little unique. I really wanted a 73 RS but couldn't afford a real one so I started looking for a replica. While looking I learned about a unique version called the Club Sport through a POC member and Porsche Salesperson who has a European one. IMO the car meets all the criteria of a great Porsche and they were produced from 87-89...what many consider some of best years. With only 340 produced, 28 imported to North America and a lot of special features that I could list for you later (e-mail me)
The only problem is finding one....
71-73 911 S, T or E's are great as well as any 993....preferrably a C2S/C4S or if you are lucky a TT.
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i've been told by numerous people that for a track car, the best model to use to start with would be the '69 to early seventies. a.) light weight bodies, b.) longer wheel-base.
Engine-wise, which motors would make the most sensible transplant? 3.0, 3.2, + ? what would be some the risks (weight distrib.)...?
Engine-wise, which motors would make the most sensible transplant? 3.0, 3.2, + ? what would be some the risks (weight distrib.)...?
#27
Impossible question. But if I could have a few 911's right now, I'd have a 1973 Carrera RS, 89 speedster, 930 turbo, 964 turbo 3.6 and a 993 turbo. Sorry, no 996. To me that car is like taking a quartz watch over an automatic. But anyway, I've owned a few including sc's, carreras, carrera 2's and a few 944's and 944 turbos. I used to sell and export Porsches, so sometimes I would hold on to a car for a while for fun. But I have still kept my trusty old sc. I just love its simplicity, durabilty and ease of maintenance. I also love the carrera 3.2. But in the end, any air-cooled 911 is a great car in my opinion.
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If you're interested in modifying the thing, then consider your local smog laws. In California, a pre-74 car doesn't get checked for things like cats, intake mods, and the like.
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If your intentions are for a mostly weekend car with some track, than feel free to e-mail me and I'll tell you how to build a street legal track sc as viable option, that will be fast enough to surprise you and whoever else is on the track. I have done the same to mine with great success. Nothing exotic, no high buck parts, no engine swaps, just small things that work.