Help! My steering wheel/column is loose!
#16
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I believe it was John Walker over on the Pelican board who first reported that some of his customer cars were having wear issues with the 928 sleeve. That is because there is metal to metal wear if the grease does not stay put, or if dirt gets in there.
The best fix is to take the steering column out and replace the bearing. I think short of that, the Edge gel or a paint can lid is superior to the 928 sleeve. Also, there is less steering wheel wobble with the plast lid fix than with the 928 sleeve.
However, different strokes for different folks.
The best fix is to take the steering column out and replace the bearing. I think short of that, the Edge gel or a paint can lid is superior to the 928 sleeve. Also, there is less steering wheel wobble with the plast lid fix than with the 928 sleeve.
However, different strokes for different folks.
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hahaha!!! you crack me up!
Here's how you do it:
Take a paint can lid or in my case an Edge shaving Gel lid.
With household scissors, cut a strip about an inch wide from the lip, and long enough to leave a small gap when you wrap the strip around the steering column. Take the steering wheel off, and the small "c" clip that is on the steering column off. With a hammer and a steel punch, tap the plastic strip down between the steering column and the inner race of the steering wheel bearing. The little bumps or detents that keep the lid on the can will act as stops to prevent the plastic from falling down into the steering column.
Now, you will have restored the ball bearing action of the steering column, and you will have NO steering column wobble. It will be tighter than the 928 sleeve, and better yet, you will have ball bearing action rather than bushing action. The 928 sleeve is not only a bushing, but to be on the safe side you need to constantly take it out, clean and re-lube it to prevent wear on the steering column. This is because the steering shaft is not perfectly matched to the 928 sleeve, which does not therefore have a tight interference fit between the column and the bearing race.
Anyway, I feel that I'm beating a dead horse so to speak on this topic.....
Here's how you do it:
Take a paint can lid or in my case an Edge shaving Gel lid.
With household scissors, cut a strip about an inch wide from the lip, and long enough to leave a small gap when you wrap the strip around the steering column. Take the steering wheel off, and the small "c" clip that is on the steering column off. With a hammer and a steel punch, tap the plastic strip down between the steering column and the inner race of the steering wheel bearing. The little bumps or detents that keep the lid on the can will act as stops to prevent the plastic from falling down into the steering column.
Now, you will have restored the ball bearing action of the steering column, and you will have NO steering column wobble. It will be tighter than the 928 sleeve, and better yet, you will have ball bearing action rather than bushing action. The 928 sleeve is not only a bushing, but to be on the safe side you need to constantly take it out, clean and re-lube it to prevent wear on the steering column. This is because the steering shaft is not perfectly matched to the 928 sleeve, which does not therefore have a tight interference fit between the column and the bearing race.
Anyway, I feel that I'm beating a dead horse so to speak on this topic.....
#19
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This all seems like a hell of a lot of effort vs spending $15 bucks and 10 mins...... I ran my car for 8 yrs with that sleeve and had no issues.....
Here's a question, how does one go about removing the entire bearing if one wanted to replace it?
Here's a question, how does one go about removing the entire bearing if one wanted to replace it?
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JFK308,
If you haven't fixed your lose steering column problem and in fact it's a bad bushing, I have a couple of the self lubricating nylon bushing left that "rusnak" pictured above. PM me for more information.
Thanks,
If you haven't fixed your lose steering column problem and in fact it's a bad bushing, I have a couple of the self lubricating nylon bushing left that "rusnak" pictured above. PM me for more information.
Thanks,
#23
This plastic "bushing" I just installed today and there is no movement..unlike the metal 928 metal bushing. I definetly recommend this fix
I have no financial interest with the maker of this product....so its a free plug to him.
I have no financial interest with the maker of this product....so its a free plug to him.
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sorry this old thread is good but some of the pics are gone....
help - sloppy wheel needs repair
I think i will make something asd the "right fix" is pretty involved sounding. Is the part that people use available so I can get it here quick... TIA
after reading more, looks like I will be pulling the steering wheel... gotta read some on how to do that
help - sloppy wheel needs repair
I think i will make something asd the "right fix" is pretty involved sounding. Is the part that people use available so I can get it here quick... TIA
after reading more, looks like I will be pulling the steering wheel... gotta read some on how to do that
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so I just jam "some plastic" down there.... I used pits from a rattle can lid cut up and left the curve in the top so they wouldnt fall deeper in... is that it?
its back together but feels a little (OK a lot) gheto repair shop... I might have to make some sort of a Derlin bushing at work, but for today (and the DE on Wed... it'll do )
its back together but feels a little (OK a lot) gheto repair shop... I might have to make some sort of a Derlin bushing at work, but for today (and the DE on Wed... it'll do )
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so I just jam "some plastic" down there.... I used pits from a rattle can lid cut up and left the curve in the top so they wouldnt fall deeper in... is that it?
its back together but feels a little (OK a lot) gheto repair shop... I might have to make some sort of a Derlin bushing at work, but for today (and the DE on Wed... it'll do )
its back together but feels a little (OK a lot) gheto repair shop... I might have to make some sort of a Derlin bushing at work, but for today (and the DE on Wed... it'll do )
This Tech Article is helpful: Pelican Technical Article: 911 Steering Column Bushing Replacement.
See this warning by John Walker: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...g-bushing.html
There is alternative product as well: Pelican Parts - Product Information: PEL-ML-STR
#28
I've done the easy $15 dollar fix, which was terrible, metal on metal and plus after time it worked its way out. Pulled that out and went with Mitch's $29 fix which you can pick up at Pelican, part # PEL-ML-STR. Read the reviews, it is the best fix.
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so the pelican part replaces the entire upper bushing? or is it a sleeve too?
if it replaces the bushing I didnt read how ya pull the old one out. (I did remove that spider ring and gave a slight "tug"... is that it, just harder?)
if it replaces the bushing I didnt read how ya pull the old one out. (I did remove that spider ring and gave a slight "tug"... is that it, just harder?)
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stock steering column bearing, (the inner white collar eventually disentigrates)
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/rusnak-albums-my-life-picture7005-steer-wh-brng.html[/URL]
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/...-bearing3.html
Notice from the back side that the bearing is a ball bearing. Usually after the plastic crumbles, the bearing itself is in good condition.
The "cure" is to insert something to take the place of the plastic that broke apart. You have to close the gap between the inner race and the steering column.https://rennlist.com/forums/members/...whl-brng4.html
The commonly accepted practice has been to install the 928 metal sleeve, but it leaves too much clearance between the steering shaft, and the inner race, as Harry already pointed out. The issue is that the steel sleeve causes wear in the steel steering shaft.
Mitch Leland has developed a part that I feel is a better solution. I've put probably over 5,000 miles on mine in the past few years. And it's working perfectly. I think Pelican Parts is the only place that carries it.
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/rusnak-albums-my-life-picture7005-steer-wh-brng.html[/URL]
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/...-bearing3.html
Notice from the back side that the bearing is a ball bearing. Usually after the plastic crumbles, the bearing itself is in good condition.
The "cure" is to insert something to take the place of the plastic that broke apart. You have to close the gap between the inner race and the steering column.https://rennlist.com/forums/members/...whl-brng4.html
The commonly accepted practice has been to install the 928 metal sleeve, but it leaves too much clearance between the steering shaft, and the inner race, as Harry already pointed out. The issue is that the steel sleeve causes wear in the steel steering shaft.
Mitch Leland has developed a part that I feel is a better solution. I've put probably over 5,000 miles on mine in the past few years. And it's working perfectly. I think Pelican Parts is the only place that carries it.