'74 Buying Advice
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I am a current 944 owner thinking about taking the leap towards a 911. I currently have my eye on an 1974 911 Coupe.
I am still contacting the owner for more info, but this is what I know so far.
-2.7 Litre engine with 1500 miles on rebuild, tires, brakes, and clutch.
-Updates include Carrera chain tensioners, new external oil cooler, turbo valve covers, dilvar studs, timeserts.
-Car has spent the past 15 years primarily in storage. Driven monthly.
-Small oil leak from intermediate shaft seal.
-Some small spots of rust in battery tray and wheel well.
-Redone apholstry. Carerra RS door panels.
-Red with black interior.
I have not found out total mileage at this point. Owner is asking $7500.
The photos indicate that this car is in 'good' condition. My only hesitation at this point is the 2.7L engine. It appears that the owner has done all the required upgrates. However, in everyone's honest opinion, what is the longevity of the 2.7L even with upgrades and overhaul.
Also, do you think the asking price is fair. The car has spent most of its life in Virginia.
The search function does not appear to be working currently. Can anyone point to a specific thread the covers the '944 to 911' topic.
Thanks,
-bp
I am still contacting the owner for more info, but this is what I know so far.
-2.7 Litre engine with 1500 miles on rebuild, tires, brakes, and clutch.
-Updates include Carrera chain tensioners, new external oil cooler, turbo valve covers, dilvar studs, timeserts.
-Car has spent the past 15 years primarily in storage. Driven monthly.
-Small oil leak from intermediate shaft seal.
-Some small spots of rust in battery tray and wheel well.
-Redone apholstry. Carerra RS door panels.
-Red with black interior.
I have not found out total mileage at this point. Owner is asking $7500.
The photos indicate that this car is in 'good' condition. My only hesitation at this point is the 2.7L engine. It appears that the owner has done all the required upgrates. However, in everyone's honest opinion, what is the longevity of the 2.7L even with upgrades and overhaul.
Also, do you think the asking price is fair. The car has spent most of its life in Virginia.
The search function does not appear to be working currently. Can anyone point to a specific thread the covers the '944 to 911' topic.
Thanks,
-bp
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IMHO,......IF,.........If the 2.7 is properly built,....and IF a car has a front oil cooler, these engines are every bit as good and durable as any aluminum-cased one.
Its all about "execution",...
Its all about "execution",...
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I agree with Steve, a properly done 2.7 is a lovely car to drive. What I'm having trouble with is why would someone who owns a car put $10K in the engine, another $1500 in the clutch, $600 in tires, who knows how much in the rest of it, and then sell it for $7500? Odd, very odd.
Receipts first, then a PPI! Click the "Search" button on your tool bar, type "The Pre-Purchase Inspection by Peter Zimmermann" in the box, then scroll the choices until you find that article.
Receipts first, then a PPI! Click the "Search" button on your tool bar, type "The Pre-Purchase Inspection by Peter Zimmermann" in the box, then scroll the choices until you find that article.
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The owner states that he did the overhaul work himself. So the cost of the upgrades probably don't include labor. Hopefully he is technically capable. He realizes the hit he is taking, but needs to sell the car.
Peter, it is nice to meet you. I was taking a look at where to find your 911 book this morning. Do any large book retailers carry your book in-stock or must I order it from amazon?
Peter, it is nice to meet you. I was taking a look at where to find your 911 book this morning. Do any large book retailers carry your book in-stock or must I order it from amazon?
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Thank you! The book can be purchased directly from the publisher - RPM Autobooks (888) 237-4359. Cheers!
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I can't agree more with Pete. A well sorted 2.7 is a blast to drive. I always liked the 74 model years as well. there are some nice '74 carreras out there that seemed so under-rated and under-priced, but I think the market is catching up with them these days. You can really have a lot of fun with a 2.7. The rest of the car should definitly be taken into consideration. I hate the sound of rust in the wheel well and battery tray. I would also be cautious of the owner-rebuilt engine. There is really no magic rebuilding one of those engines, but it is not really a father/son project either. Like Steve said-"execution is everything". Good luck.
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Just have someone check for more "hidden" rust.
I almost picked up a real nice 74 Targa (ex-california car)but after an inspection by a third party we found poor rust repair in the inner rear fenders near the tailights, bondo on the lower door corners and rust inder the rear seats after looking underneath and the front frame near the battery.
I had cash in hand and was glad to take a step back and have someone else take a look even though I checked it out and test drove it three times.
Then again $7,500 might seems like a good deal if everything checks out after the PPI.
John
I almost picked up a real nice 74 Targa (ex-california car)but after an inspection by a third party we found poor rust repair in the inner rear fenders near the tailights, bondo on the lower door corners and rust inder the rear seats after looking underneath and the front frame near the battery.
I had cash in hand and was glad to take a step back and have someone else take a look even though I checked it out and test drove it three times.
Then again $7,500 might seems like a good deal if everything checks out after the PPI.
John
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I am glad this came up. I will be looking at a '74 Coupe this weekend, if it doesn't rain. The asking is 9K. I will need to sharpen my eye while looking for rust and wrinkles. If I can make one suggestion to the Kramer poster. Get the car under some good floresent lights in a garage, it shows everything, at least on top.
Doug and Julie.......that is a little stunner of a car. I would enjoy seeing more pics of the '74 Coupes. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to post pix on Rennlist. I have given up.
P.S, A note to whomever owns Rennlist. Hire someone that makes it easier to post pix. Here is a tip, go to Pelican or the 356 Registry and find out who their I.T guy is and hire him. Cut, Paste, Add.....paaalllllees. This isn't the year 2000. I'm to dumb to figure it out how to post pix....you fix it.
Doug and Julie.......that is a little stunner of a car. I would enjoy seeing more pics of the '74 Coupes. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to post pix on Rennlist. I have given up.
P.S, A note to whomever owns Rennlist. Hire someone that makes it easier to post pix. Here is a tip, go to Pelican or the 356 Registry and find out who their I.T guy is and hire him. Cut, Paste, Add.....paaalllllees. This isn't the year 2000. I'm to dumb to figure it out how to post pix....you fix it.
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Thanks for the kind comments guys! All due credit goes to the PO on it's looks / condition. I'm actually making some changes to make it more "mine" than his. We removed the script and modern "911" badge from the back. I was going to remove the spoilers as well, but this one little change makes such a big difference, I may keep them.
(Mike, got your PM...I'll send some more from work on Monday)
To post photos...click the "Post Reply" button at the top or bottom left of each thread...a new dialog box will come up...below it is "Additional Options"...click the "Manage Attachments" button...you can upload photos from there. They can't be huge, but most file formats work.
Anywho...some pics of the car shortly after purchase.
(Mike, got your PM...I'll send some more from work on Monday)
To post photos...click the "Post Reply" button at the top or bottom left of each thread...a new dialog box will come up...below it is "Additional Options"...click the "Manage Attachments" button...you can upload photos from there. They can't be huge, but most file formats work.
Anywho...some pics of the car shortly after purchase.
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Thank you Doug. The potential buyer for my 356 called and backed out, something about the economy. I still want to go see the '74 in our area. After seeing Dougs car I am smitten............
Lets see if my picture worked.
Lets see if my picture worked.
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It sounds like much of the right things were done to that 74. The only detractor for a 911S from 1974 is lack of galvanized body panels,--that came about a year later. Watch for rust signs.