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Old 12-06-2008, 11:07 PM
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Question Question: Fuchs valve stem support?

All four of my 16x7 fuchs have these on them. Two are early production 16x7's and two are 951 16x7's. I don't recall seeing these on the earlier fuchs wheels. What is its purpose? Is it necessary? Should I keep or remove? How's it bonded to the wheel? I'm cleaning these up before mounting the new tires and just curious.

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Old 12-06-2008, 11:48 PM
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The theory is that at high speed it keeps the stem from being forced outwards and bending. You can imagine at 150mph there is a lot of centrifugal force. Rough math, if that thing weighs half an ounce and you are doing 150mph it will generate on or about 55lbf. I hope my numbers are correct. It could, in theory, shear the stem right off.

Pelican does sell these at $6/each.
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Sure enough, Pelican lists it as a factory Porsche part. Interesting I've never heard of centrifugal force tearing out valve stems before! Just one more example of how seriously the factory takes SPEED! Thanks for solving that mystery for me..........
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TT you may just want to have metal valve stems installed, vs using the supports.
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You can easily remove them as they are just applied with some very strong double sided tape.
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Originally Posted by Driver8
TT you may just want to have metal valve stems installed, vs using the supports.
Yup, get some bolt-ons like these from Summit:
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Why are these valve stem supports only on the rear wheels and not the front wheels as well?

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I put a set on some fuchs this summer and here's my understanding of the supports from a local race shop - they are recommended for 7"+ wheels, front or rear doesn't matter, and the rubber stems are believed to be better than metal for holding air when they are stressed at speed (flexed)
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Originally Posted by TT Oversteer
Interesting I've never heard of centrifugal force tearing out valve stems before!
And you likely never will. If your car is a race car, and you routinely drive 150mph +, you might want to use these as cheap insurance. Otherwise, they aren't needed.
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the 356 Carreras had them too, but they were made of wire and were sort of looped around the valve stems.

Leave a little gap so that at rest the stems do not rub against the support.
Old 12-07-2008, 05:26 PM
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If you drive at any sort of "High Speed", I'd most definitely leave them in place. One of mine was gone on my old 8" rears, so I took the other off to match thinking it was overkill.

Well, I'm here to tell you unequivocally that it was no fun coming into turn 1 @ Texas Motor Speedway with a "rapidly deflating" RH rear tire. Thank goodness for 24 degree banking. I was nowhere close to 150mph. I may've clicked 130 on the front "straight" of the tri-oval since we were running the ALMS course thru the infield, and we had a chicane on the front straight after the kink. They are there for a reason.
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A number of years ago, I pulled in from a fun run at speed, and as I was leaning against the car, the valve stem failed. The tire was flat in less time than it takes to read this.

I had all new valve stems later that day.
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PCA recommends that you use them in DE's, along with steel lug nuts.
Old 12-09-2008, 04:24 PM
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It's nice to know that you can still get these. I ran them on any of my Fuchs wheels that were over 7 inches wide. The way the valve hole is positioned in the 6 inch rims is not a factor requiring such support. Having touched 162 mph in my turbo with 7 and 8 inch Fuchs I never experienced any problem.
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I just think they look kinda cool!


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