911 Rod

Hey All,
Not the right forum but what the hell.
I put the gf snows with steel wheels on her Matrix for her.
The manual states 76 lbs. to torque the lug nuts (chrome).
What do you normally torque steel wheels at?
Thanks

Norske

I think 95 Ft lbs

Peter Zimmermann

Chrome wheels normally are not chrome in the lug nut/bolt contact area. I would say to use the same 76 lb/ft spec...but only after calling the dealer. A Matrix is a small Toyota, correct? 4-lug or 5-lug wheels?

911 Rod

Thanks.
Toyota Matrix / Pontiac Vibe. It's a little sports cute thing.
Steels rims. 16". You know the black ones that you need hub caps for.
It's only the nuts that are chrome. Cheap ones at that.
I torqued them to 95lbs as I was worried about the gf. I'm not finished with her yet.
I called the BMW dealer when I bought my first one and they told me 120lbs!
The correct spec. is 78lbs. No trust in the dealers anymore.

Ian Ledger

Seems right a wheel nut is a wheel nut, so the torque should not be different for steel or alloy wheels.
Ian

911 Rod

Peter, there are 5 lugs.
Thanks
Rod

911 Rod

Spoke to the dealer. Just as I thought.
Spec is about 90 lbs.
But, "We torque all wheels at 105 lbs no matter what it is"
And they wonder why we work on our own cars.

MDL

Don't forget to use a VERY SMALL amount of anti seize on the shoulder of the nut. Do not use it on the threads. That is the only way to get an accurate torque reading.

Peter Zimmermann

Actually, with 911s, a small smear of copper paste anti-seize should also be applied to the threads, not sure what Toyota's philosophy on this is...and those lugs are definitely 94 lb/ft!

ron mcatee

I've always used a little anti-sieze on the threads and a light film on the back of the lug nut. If you have ever had a lug nut sieze to the wheel, you'll know why. Had to chisel the damn thing off. Since using the anti-sieze (40 years now), I've never had another problem.

911 Rod

I use anti-seize on the hubs of BMW's where they contact the rim.
If you don't they are a bitch to get off.

theiceman

i use the copper spray. i usually spray the surface between the rotor and the wheel and the over spry onto the lugs works fine.