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Old 06-04-2008, 04:51 PM
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How do you actually adjust camber on 1983 911SC... I realize that alingment should be left to the pros...but the inside of my tire is a little eaten away with too much negative camber. I was going to mess around a little till I buy new tires and then have a full alingment....I just don't know where the adjustment is at.
thanks, and sorry for the ignorance.\
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I join you on this, abe. By the way, I use my SC for tracking and would like to know if anyone in Miami (or South Florida area) would recommend me a good shop for alignments of a 911 SC.
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Originally Posted by abe
How do you actually adjust camber on 1983 911SC... I realize that alingment should be left to the pros...but the inside of my tire is a little eaten away with too much negative camber. I was going to mess around a little till I buy new tires and then have a full alingment....I just don't know where the adjustment is at.
thanks, and sorry for the ignorance.\
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Camber is adjusted at the tops of the strut towers by loosening the three socket-headed cap screws and moving the upper strut bushing inward or outward.

Trouble is, you change caster at the same time (thus, toe) so this is not a DIY'er unless you have all the proper equipment and a dead-level place to do it.

Given the cost of tires, IMHO its cheaper to let a qualified pro do this for you.
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Just what i was thinking Steve ... how do you know it is camber and not ploughing due to bad toe..
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Just what i was thinking Steve ... how do you know it is camber and not ploughing due to bad toe..

LOL,..There are many reasons why a car will understeer but here are just a few of them:

1) Insufficent front camber

2) Too much front toe-in

3) Bad shocks

4) Brand new, or worn-out tires

5) Insufficient or too much front tire pressure

6) Broken rear swaybar mount

7) Driver technique issues (picking early apexes)


This should give you something to work on.
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hey wait a minute ,, i resemble that last remark ..
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hey wait a minute ,, i resemble that last remark ..

ROFL,...that really DOES give you something to work on,..

Early apexes generally result in terminal understeer that destroys front tires,..
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how do i know I early apexed ...... ? cause I'm heading for the ditch stupid ....
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Originally Posted by abe
How do you actually adjust camber on 1983 911SC... I realize that alingment should be left to the pros...but the inside of my tire is a little eaten away with too much negative camber. \
abe
Are we talking about a front or rear tire? The adjustment in the rear is different, using and eccentric bolt.

How did we get on the ploughing tangent? Wouldn't too much toe in generally wear across the whole tire, unless you had too much neg camber in the first place?

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this is getting too technical to me. I'll find a shop and let them do it for me...
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I was talking about front....BTW I just had the front alingment at Bobs in Thousand Oaks....they did a good job for less than $60. Good for old cars....no computer stuff though. I guess I can't get anymore positive camber....system is maxed out. He adjusted the toe in to compensate. What I understand is that when these cars get old they develope a little negative camber.
Since I don't drive it daily and there is probably not much else that can be done short of spending $$$$ I will leave it as is.
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Refreshing to see someone struggling to get "a little more positive camber" isn't it boys??
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Refreshing to see someone struggling to get "a little more positive camber" isn't it boys??
...as a previous Mercedes owner, we want our cars to look "pretty" and we want the tires to wear down evenly. Racing? I didn't even know that people tracked their cars untill I saw this site. Why would anyone want to abuse such lovely little cars....I ask?
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In my case, after 5 DE Events my 4 tires are eaten on the outside part. As this is a track car, I guess I need negative camber. Question is how much negative camber I should get on a 83 SC lowered with karger torsion bars ? - 3 , 4 , 5 degrees...? Anyone in the Miami area knows a good alignment shop for this job? thanks


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