frogers

Hi All-
I have been lurking for awhile and have finally got around to posting. I have learned alot from browsing this forum, thanks.
I am coming from a VW background I have been working on bugs and buses for a number of years. Now that my finances permit I want to take the step up to a 911.
I am looking for something from the late 70's early 80's. My question is about a Euro model. I have come across a 77' euro model and needed some info on these. I know the tech specs but what are the issues with having these in the US, are parts easily available, where can i find the value anything else i should be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Bill Gregory

On the Euro models, you want to know when it was imported into the US, as they are often harder on their Porsches that side of the pond,ie, if driven year round in Germany it was exposed to lots of salt in the winter. If it required EPA/DOT certification you want to see the EPE/DOT papers, as well as the receipts on who did the work. A problem with bringing Euro models into the US is that some conversions are poorly done. There are some parts that are unique to Euro models, and if Porsche still sells them, any dealer in the US can order them from Europe. Few times I've done this it takes an extra 2-3 weeks to get the parts, although you can always expedite them for a fee. If the '77 you're looking at has the 3.0L engine, that's neat. If it has the 2.7L engine, then be sure you understand the weak points of the 2.7L engines. If it's already been rebuilt by a reputable party, then it's probably OK.

Jay H

Frogers:

My brother has a Euro spec '83 SC that he has owned for 5 years. The car was originally registered in Germany and brought to the US in 1986. The fact that the car is a Euro has never caused him any problems with emmissions or parts availability. Though, the prior owner did have the car imported correctly (spent the money needed) and did not skimp on emmissions requirements and documentation.

I've read in several places that Euro spec cars can bring ~ 10% less than equivalent US cars. Though a '77 is getting old enough were this may not be a factor anymore.

I agree with Bill on the 2.7 engine cars.

Hope this helps,
Jay
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rfw 911

I just purchased a 77 Euro,(3 weeks ago) it has the 3.0 and is badged as a Carrera. I am told that the Carrera wasnt available here in the states until 78.

I had concerns also, the previous owner had it converted back in 84. He said they replaced the seatbelts, changed the speedo and performed a general "saftey" inspection.
As far as the emissions go there isnt a cat on the car. He claimed that you are allowed a onetime amnesty on importing. Being that he lived in Europe and was importing the car for himself and not as a business.

Another thing to consider is that in some states it may be smog exempt due to the age.
Here in NJ I think that it has to be 25 years old and then I can apply for antique status.

Motorvehicles titled it for me and it has a "B" code which means that I am the 2nd owner asfar as they are concerned. As far as anything special, I am no expert but all seems normal to me. I am taking her for a valve adjustment in the morning, and I will be having them give her a quick once over, and I will be asking if there is any Euro specific looking items.

For reference I paid $12,000.00 for mine.
It has 54,000 miles, a/c , power windows,
and a sunroof. The engine was redone 3000 miles ago including upgraded tensioners and a new clutch.

Regards,
Rich
77 Carrera Euro.

Dial 911

There are plenty of very nice cars in the catagory you refer to, without having to consider a grey market car.

Jay H

Froger:

Keep in mind that finding a 911 that is one year newer (1978) buys you one of the best 911's Porsche ever built (911SC). [no offense to 2.7 owners] For probably not too much more cash ($3000 - $5000 ?) than a 1977, you bypass the 2.7 motor issue, get the great 3.0 liter motor, etc., etc. SC's really seem to be holding their value as of late.