Finally Running! 5 year project
06-26-2007, 10:58 AM
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Finally Running! 5 year project
My 1969 T. Purchased as a non-running car in 2002. It was a "rust bucket"! Most would have stripped it and sold the parts ...I wanted a project. (Did just tell the wife to shoot me in the head should I bring home another "project"!) Car had not been licensed since 1995. Two years on a rotisserie, five years and four months in total. I drove it for the first time last week!!
Lots of new sheet metal; inner/outer rockers, floors, door latch panels, battery boxes, front suspension pan, longitudinals, etc. New fuel tank, turbo tie rod upgrade, relocated battery, H4 lights with relay kit, new calipers, rear bearings, new suspension bushings all around, all shifter bushings replaced and a Momo wheel.
Rebuilt the stock 2.0 with Webers and: oil restriction upgrade, cooling tin upgrade, pressure tensioner upgrade, SSI exhaust, MSD ignition, fuel pressure regulator, relocated fuel pump and filter to steering area.
Had it painted, Arctic Silver.
Lots of new sheet metal; inner/outer rockers, floors, door latch panels, battery boxes, front suspension pan, longitudinals, etc. New fuel tank, turbo tie rod upgrade, relocated battery, H4 lights with relay kit, new calipers, rear bearings, new suspension bushings all around, all shifter bushings replaced and a Momo wheel.
Rebuilt the stock 2.0 with Webers and: oil restriction upgrade, cooling tin upgrade, pressure tensioner upgrade, SSI exhaust, MSD ignition, fuel pressure regulator, relocated fuel pump and filter to steering area.
Had it painted, Arctic Silver.
06-26-2007, 11:01 AM
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06-26-2007, 04:37 PM
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Well done. Congrats. So if you don't mind me asking, what was your budget like? Did you do all the welding yourself? One of these days, I'm going to tackle a project car... might not be a 911, but it'll be something interesting.
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Brett, As many have said before: "All older P-cars are $20K cars". (meaning, I assume; if you buy one that is already well sorted out ...you pay $20K, or if you sort it out yourself, you will SPEND $20K to do so.) I have not yet totaled all the receipts but this car will be in that category. Off the top of my head, I think I have about $20-23K in it. Purchased for $4K, did ALL the work myself except media blasting ($300) and final body prep./ paint (that was $5,600.00). Balance is in parts.
Oh ...MY five years of labor ($50K..lol).
The good thing about this car (minus the rust issues); it was complete! Carpet, seats, gauges, engine, transaxle, glass, lights ...etc. I did purchase a used front fender and front roll pan which were too rusty to salvage. If you start with a car that is missing many of these pieces, your cost will rise accordingly. And of course if you cannot do the work yourself ...well ...(see labor charge above!)
Oh ...MY five years of labor ($50K..lol).
The good thing about this car (minus the rust issues); it was complete! Carpet, seats, gauges, engine, transaxle, glass, lights ...etc. I did purchase a used front fender and front roll pan which were too rusty to salvage. If you start with a car that is missing many of these pieces, your cost will rise accordingly. And of course if you cannot do the work yourself ...well ...(see labor charge above!)
06-27-2007, 09:54 AM
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Thanks for the nice comments guys.
Yes Douglas, I was only half joking about the labor costs. Although I highly encourage people to try and "save" these old cars rather than strip and dispose of them, if an individual cannot perform most of the work themselves, the labor cost at a shop would make this type car (rusty, much metal work, complete engine rebuild, etc.) prohibitive.
This is my first Porsche, I was more into street machines (55 Chevys, Chevelles, etc.) but I do like the credo: "Restore 'em ...don't crush 'em!". It was a lot of work, but I will enjoy driving it and whoever owns it (after I am long gone) will also.
Hopefully, someone seeing this tread will see that you CAN save even a car that seems hopeless... and be inspired.
Yes Douglas, I was only half joking about the labor costs. Although I highly encourage people to try and "save" these old cars rather than strip and dispose of them, if an individual cannot perform most of the work themselves, the labor cost at a shop would make this type car (rusty, much metal work, complete engine rebuild, etc.) prohibitive.
This is my first Porsche, I was more into street machines (55 Chevys, Chevelles, etc.) but I do like the credo: "Restore 'em ...don't crush 'em!". It was a lot of work, but I will enjoy driving it and whoever owns it (after I am long gone) will also.
Hopefully, someone seeing this tread will see that you CAN save even a car that seems hopeless... and be inspired.
06-27-2007, 03:03 PM
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Brett, As many have said before: "All older P-cars are $20K cars". (meaning, I assume; if you buy one that is already well sorted out ...you pay $20K, or if you sort it out yourself, you will SPEND $20K to do so.) I have not yet totaled all the receipts but this car will be in that category. Off the top of my head, I think I have about $20-23K in it. Purchased for $4K, did ALL the work myself except media blasting ($300) and final body prep./ paint (that was $5,600.00). Balance is in parts.
Oh ...MY five years of labor ($50K..lol).
The good thing about this car (minus the rust issues); it was complete! Carpet, seats, gauges, engine, transaxle, glass, lights ...etc. I did purchase a used front fender and front roll pan which were too rusty to salvage. If you start with a car that is missing many of these pieces, your cost will rise accordingly. And of course if you cannot do the work yourself ...well ...(see labor charge above!)
Oh ...MY five years of labor ($50K..lol).
The good thing about this car (minus the rust issues); it was complete! Carpet, seats, gauges, engine, transaxle, glass, lights ...etc. I did purchase a used front fender and front roll pan which were too rusty to salvage. If you start with a car that is missing many of these pieces, your cost will rise accordingly. And of course if you cannot do the work yourself ...well ...(see labor charge above!)
Brett
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Brett, I am a self taught welder, just had lots of practice over the years. I would recommend a Voc- Tec. college if one is near by, take some classes, learn the basics, then practice!
Although I used an Electric Welder to build my body cradle, rotisserie, and english wheel, the restoration of my 69 was ALL done with my Acet./oxygen set! (yes, I'm REALLY old school!) You can
do a lot with a "00" size tip and low gas pressures.
Although I used an Electric Welder to build my body cradle, rotisserie, and english wheel, the restoration of my 69 was ALL done with my Acet./oxygen set! (yes, I'm REALLY old school!) You can
do a lot with a "00" size tip and low gas pressures.