Wow...I think I got hosed...check it out, pics included.
10-26-2006, 09:54 AM
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If I had any second thoughts about trying to do as much of the work on my car as my skill level will allow, they have been alleviated. Sorry to hear about your experience Jeremy. The cost savings aside, I know any work I do will be slow and methodical, bordering on ****. I hope you get everything back together.
10-26-2006, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by theiceman
Hey Jeremy I don't remember, what exactly were you having done anyway ?
1. All new fuel injectors
2. Cleaned out the fuel distributor
3. Drained the gas tank.
4. Oil change
5. Replace air intake boot
6. Fix my shroud rubbing on the pulley (as you can see from the pics, this did not really happen.
7. Fix my driver's door handle.
8. Replaced the battery.
I did not know how to fix the airbox issue and felt it would be worth it to have a shop fix it and get the car running again (as I did not know what all it would need after sitting for 6 years), however it ended up being fairly easy things. With the exception of cleaning out the fuel distributor and draining the fuel tank, I think I could have managed most of the things they did. Certainly the oil change and replacing the battery!
10-26-2006, 10:02 AM
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If you paid by credit card, dispute it. You have documented their poor workmanship better than 99% of other credit card customers. If you paid by check, I would try to stop payment. They're probably not thieves, just really sloppy. If they repair cars in a sloppy manner, they probably run their business the same way so they may not have deposited your check yet.
10-26-2006, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SeattlePorsche
Jeremy,
My mechanic in Federal Way is Ognian. He is a Saab expert, but he can work on any car. He has high dollar BMW and Mercedes in his shop. The shop is called OTEMS in the phone book. It is right behind B&B Auto Supply. I trust him with everything about my Saab. He will work on my AC on my 81SC later. He is super fair about price. That is what I like about him. He gives me way too many freebies. I recently bought a 1986 Saab 900 Turbo with 272k miles. I took it to Ognian to look the car over, sort of a post purchase inspection. The PO removed the entire AC and Ognian has access to used Saab parts, so I asked him how much to restore the AC. He said 600$. He couldn't get the AC to work and had to spend 7 hours troubleshooting it. He worked until 2am because he promised me the car by 8am. He didn't charge me a penny for the extra labor. I usually have to insist that he charge me for certain things because I don't want to take advantage of him. So for certain things, Ognian would be great. Tell him I sent ya and I guarantee he will look after you. I also bought my Sachs clutch from him this week and he resurfaced my flywheel for the Porsche.
But other major things I would take to John Walker or Gerber Motorsports. John only works on air-cooled Porsche. Just like Ognian and Saabs, John knows everything about P-cars. He is going to do a major maintenance on my 993 next Friday. Gerber is very meticulous about writing out what you need and what they did. They also have at least 3 mechanics and one manager Mark who used to be a mechaic and he knows everything Porsche too. John is a one man show. No receptionist, no other mechanics, no manager. So he is hard to schedule an appointment with. So I am saving my big things for John later. I will ask him to reset my CO levels when I am done with the engine and exhaust.
Good luck!
My mechanic in Federal Way is Ognian. He is a Saab expert, but he can work on any car. He has high dollar BMW and Mercedes in his shop. The shop is called OTEMS in the phone book. It is right behind B&B Auto Supply. I trust him with everything about my Saab. He will work on my AC on my 81SC later. He is super fair about price. That is what I like about him. He gives me way too many freebies. I recently bought a 1986 Saab 900 Turbo with 272k miles. I took it to Ognian to look the car over, sort of a post purchase inspection. The PO removed the entire AC and Ognian has access to used Saab parts, so I asked him how much to restore the AC. He said 600$. He couldn't get the AC to work and had to spend 7 hours troubleshooting it. He worked until 2am because he promised me the car by 8am. He didn't charge me a penny for the extra labor. I usually have to insist that he charge me for certain things because I don't want to take advantage of him. So for certain things, Ognian would be great. Tell him I sent ya and I guarantee he will look after you. I also bought my Sachs clutch from him this week and he resurfaced my flywheel for the Porsche.
But other major things I would take to John Walker or Gerber Motorsports. John only works on air-cooled Porsche. Just like Ognian and Saabs, John knows everything about P-cars. He is going to do a major maintenance on my 993 next Friday. Gerber is very meticulous about writing out what you need and what they did. They also have at least 3 mechanics and one manager Mark who used to be a mechaic and he knows everything Porsche too. John is a one man show. No receptionist, no other mechanics, no manager. So he is hard to schedule an appointment with. So I am saving my big things for John later. I will ask him to reset my CO levels when I am done with the engine and exhaust.
Good luck!
10-26-2006, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by btdt50
If you paid by credit card, dispute it. You have documented their poor workmanship better than 99% of other credit card customers. If you paid by check, I would try to stop payment. They're probably not thieves, just really sloppy. If they repair cars in a sloppy manner, they probably run their business the same way so they may not have deposited your check yet.
10-26-2006, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle
If you haven't gone in to talk to the shop yet, I would go that route first. AFC has a good reputation with the BMW crowd and I have heard good things about the shop manager.
10-26-2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luus
that sucks 
who did you bring the car to? If the project is too big for John walker give Squire a call @ Squires in Bellevue. He should be able to get you squared away
who did you bring the car to? If the project is too big for John walker give Squire a call @ Squires in Bellevue. He should be able to get you squared away
10-26-2006, 01:55 PM
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Winter Spray
Ice,
I have heard various recommendations about winter storage, from doing nothing to the cylinders to spraying in WD-40. I just did what my previous experience and limited intellect allowed: I bought some winter fogging storage spray from my Bombardier Ski-Doo dealer and sprayed it in each cylinder using a McDonald's soda straw press-fitted into a clear plastic hose. Once I was sure I had it in the spark plug holes I just sprayed it in the hose and let it run down. Then D/C the DME relay and turned the engine over a few times. At least it makes me believe I did something useful. Hey, it works for my other air-cooled machine:
I have heard various recommendations about winter storage, from doing nothing to the cylinders to spraying in WD-40. I just did what my previous experience and limited intellect allowed: I bought some winter fogging storage spray from my Bombardier Ski-Doo dealer and sprayed it in each cylinder using a McDonald's soda straw press-fitted into a clear plastic hose. Once I was sure I had it in the spark plug holes I just sprayed it in the hose and let it run down. Then D/C the DME relay and turned the engine over a few times. At least it makes me believe I did something useful. Hey, it works for my other air-cooled machine:
10-26-2006, 05:28 PM
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Well here is a quick update. I just got back from the shop and spoke with the shop manager. He was very apologetic and immediately asked me what all was wrong with the car and to show him. I brought him out and showed him the work that was not completed and he said, "I will get it in right now and have it done for you today". I told him about the heater hoses and how the tech said they crumbled in his hands and he said I will get new hoses for you and get them in as well. So...if they fix everything in short order, I am a much happier customer. One thing the manager did say was, "yeah, your car sat apart too long", meaning in their shop while getting worked on. I will let you know what happens when I pick up the car later!
10-26-2006, 07:06 PM
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Hmmm... sounds like a bad mech that the shop owner got saddled with. Or maybe the original mech. quit or got sick and another one tried to pcik up the job. Anyway, sounds like the owner is solid.
Good luck on the follow thru.
Good luck on the follow thru.
10-26-2006, 11:17 PM
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Well, quite the turn around. I went in there and calmly explained what had not been done correctly. The shop manager was very apologetic and immediately asked what he could do, what needed to be fixed, etc. He put brand new heater hoses in, two brand new airbox straps, somewhat fixed the shroud, (I think I just need to upgrade to the 11 blade), and gave it a minor detail including wash. I am now much happier. Driving it home felt much better as well. It did not appear to be running as rough as it has lately. Could this be because the airbox is sealed now rather than half open and loose? Heat is nice this time of year as well! Tomorrow I am picking up 101 Projects For Your Porsche (or whatever the title is 
! I am also ordering a new smile! I can't wait! Thanks for all your support guys!
! I am also ordering a new smile! I can't wait! Thanks for all your support guys!
It is not surprising after your recent experience your "smile" was gone. Glad things are looking up ..