JackOlsen

What will one be selling for? I'm curious about the different opinons on where Carrera prices might be in 5 years. In this case, it's not for a pampered show car, but for a nice-looking, well-maintained driver.

hoffman912

usually porsches are at their lowest value after 20 or so years. a carrea isnt necessarly a special model (well all porsches are special), but all 911s were carreras in the 80's.. its the standard model of its day.

ie.. speedsters & 356's in general were dirt cheep in the 70's.. we know where those are now. 912's hit the basement in the late 80's/early 90s. early 911s were at their lowest at that time as well, and both are now starting to go up up & up. the SC doesnt exactly seem to be holding up the greatest.. not really dropping much, but not really going up. i may be wrong on the sc.. but i havent noticed anything spectacular in pricing.

the 930 has held its value well through the years.. thats about the only thing thats an exception really.

thats why i see the 80's carrera in the low 10's and low teens in 2009. im probably wrong though. but thats my hunch.


maybe we can all get lucky, see them go into the low single digits so we can buy em and grab the g50 out of them. (or is that too early for thr G50.. if so.. heck another reason for it to not necessarly hold its value at that time)

imcarthur

My guessimtate would be a very modest price slide. I am often surprised at the prices I hear from today's sellers who bought in the mid-90s. Very similar to today's prices.

So 15 - 17.

Ian

KC911

I'm inclined to agree with Ian...a modest slide. As for what the actual prices will be...just like today, it will depend on where you are located.

Keith

g-50cab

I voted 18-20 because a $100K 1987 car in 2009 would be considered low mileage at 4500 miles a year

mamoroso

I say 14-16k. This is what I would have paid for an 82 SC with 100k on the clock in nice condition when I was looking for a car. SC/Carreras are similar in my opinion... i think today's price differential is just age.... All else being equal I am happy to pay 3-4k for a 7yr younger car.

epbrown01

I see the biggest danger to the G50 911's residual values as the depreciating Boxster S - once those fall into the same price range (and by 2009 it's likely), buyers will have a tough decision: the iconic 911 in what many will consider it's last, best incarnation or the faster, more modern, better-handling Boxster S for the same money? Bear in mind that sales for Porsche reached their nadir in the late 80s, so there will be lots more nice Boxsters to choose from than G50 911 coupes.

To paraphrase Q. Tarentino: There are people that love Porsches, and there are people that love only the 911. Porsche people can like 911s (it's almost a requirement), and 911 people can like other Porsches (much more rare in my experience) but in every person's heart-of-hearts they've made a choice and no amount of rationalizing will change what's in their hearts.

The G50 911 will hold it's value because 911 people will always pay through the nose for a good 911.

Emanuel

fixnprsh

I voted for an increase, of over $23K, due to what all really nice, original, well kept 911's have done in the past, I think they are at rock bottom now, and with the upswing in the economy, prices will go up for the Carrera's value due to its tank-like reliability. especially ones with options. Carreras dont have the quirky CIS problems, rust problems, handling ills, like all of its previuos bretheren.

2009, boxsters are avalible for a dime-a-dozen due to the fact that motors are ticking time bombs, true they handle well and are so-so power wise, but after the reliability issuse, whos really going to buy a car that the motor will cost more to replace than the car?
2009, the 997 will be going out and a new bastardized car will be the "new" 911 incarnate to carry the torch (albeit a little dim by now) into the future
2009, chance to own one of the last, greatest 911's ever produced will be ever decreasing, I could see ponying up another 5 grand as compared to todays prices for a super nice coupe as another car remotely close to it will never be made again so get yours while you can. (I got mine already!)

Jay H

For another date point, I bought my '86 911 in late 1996 for $16,900. 91k on the clock, very good mechanical condition and average cosmetic condition. I would assume I'd pay similar money (maybe a $1000 or two less) for a similar car today. All of the G-50 cars were above $20,000 for higher mile drivers at that point.

For the car in Jack's pole, I voted $18-20k assuming the car has few mechanical or cosmetic issues (healthy motor and trans and no major accident damage). I think the premium for the G-50 will always be there in the market place. If the economy is back to a boom type condition, then values may increase above $20k. Purely speculation...

Jay
90 964

LukeSportsman

Yeah, but by then, you could get a Cayenne for about $20k or less if fuel prices skyrocket And we all know that their backseats are more comfortable.

imcarthur

So, it boils down to propaganda.

As owners, we have a solemn duty to convert our spawn & other young'uns to the virtue of the pure 911. Not those adulterated 964s & 993s - let alone the 996 & Boxster. We gotta sell!!!! We can drive the price up! Of course, only when we're selling . . .

We all have to pitch in & sell the brand & with huge emphasis on the 'last of the breed', the 'epitome of semi-affordable sport cars' etc etc.

What do ya think?

Ian

g-50cab

I'm not selling - maybe adding to the fleet - but not selling...

86NOH2O

The economy has been in the tank and killing prices for a few years now and yet my car is still worth almost what I paid 3 years ago. Clean low mile cars are going to be few and very far between. I think the demand will still be there but the supply will be way down. Supply seems to have dropped off considerably already. My guess would be nice, original, low mile examples will be held by collectors and priced accordingly. While 100K miles might be low for the age, I don't think that will be a low mile car, maybe 60K miles tops. Whatever happens, they are not investments but it's a great well respected car and I don't see prices falling. If they do it will make it much less expensive to add cars to my collection.

fixnprsh

if all of us buy 1 or 2 more, it will be like cornering the market! like Henry Ford (but we wont destroy them all) HAHAHA

JCP911S

I'd go for $18-20 (but my heart says $20-23... mostly because of greed and wishful thinking).

I don't see the Boxster/996 really being a substitute... they are very different cars with alot unknown repair exposure... while Fixn might be a bit extreme, the point is taken... who knows what the repair history of a 10 year old out of warrenty Boxster with 100K miles on it might be... replacing a climate control assy, top assy, or brainbox could be a shock... let alone an engine.... risk will deflate prices.

I would tend to see a used Boxster as a substitue for a new Miata for $20K +/-

I don't think the Carrara will become a true "collectable" in that period... and by that I mean their value is determined purely by their expected investment value... not by thier value as a car... they are too plentiful.... if you look, the only "production" (not RS/RSR) 911 that has really achieved that status is the early S... total US import is probably about 2,500 cars (just a guess). Prices for small bumber Ts ans Es have been pretty stable for a long time and are priced in line with 2.7s, 3.0s and 3.2s once the relative strengths and weaknesses are factored in.

But if the market suddenly sees them as the last of the "true" porsches... and that begins to define thier desirabily (as opposed to practical considerations such as longevity, performance, and repar costs), they could experience sharp price increases... the market is still pretty much stable within the little Porsche world... if traditional buyers of other cars cross over into the 911 market, demand could outstrip supply pretty quickly.

Bottom line.... little downside... with some potential upside... for a car that has some "collector car" cache and character and is also practical to drive and maintain as a car... a no brainer IMHO